Safe to use wazine 17 and sumlet at the same time?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by groundpecker, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. groundpecker

    groundpecker Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Usually i am helping others with problems. Now i have a new problem i've never encountered before.

    I had a few great quality chicks sent to me a couple weeks ago. I discovered worms in their poo, so i mixed in a bit of wazine17.
    Now i discover they may also have cocci, because of blood in their poo. Probably from the sand i use as poultry grit from the sand pile where a pool used to be. I am used to cocci treatments in chicks, it's in my soil, nothing i can do about that, but expose them at an early age to build immunity.

    I am wondering if using wazine17 and sumlet at the same time possible. I do not want to lose any of these expensive chicks, nor do i want to kill them by mixing meds.

    I would be thankful if someone will help me out with:

    would it be safe to use both wazine17 and sumlet at the same time.
    Should i wait a few days before giving sumlet?
     
  2. flowerchild59

    flowerchild59 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If you look at my signature line below you will find a link on parasites and worming. I wormed my birds first with wazine because it was locally available, then valbazen and treated their bloody stools wtih neomycin (it is what the necropsy recommended).
     
  3. Judy

    Judy Moderator Staff Member

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    I would not, if only because Sulmet is so rough on them.
     
  4. dawg53

    dawg53 Humble

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    I would treat for cocci first. When you see blood in chicks poop, death then usually occurs. There are 9 types of cocci that chickens can get. Sulmet treats only 2 types. I recommend corid instead, it treats all 9 types of cocci and is not harsh on their system like sulmet. Corid 9.6% liquid solution dosage is 9.5cc's per gallon of water for 5 days. Then on the 6th day instead of repeating worming with wazine, dose them with safeguard liquid goat wormer, 1/4cc orally undiluted. Wazine only gets rid of large roundworms, safeguard gets rid of many types of worms.
     
  5. groundpecker

    groundpecker Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I think the sand may have caused the bleeding. It was the first time i added sand to their brooder, they may have over-eaten too much.. i have not seen any blood in poop in several hours. So i guess i will not treat for cocci.
     
  6. groundpecker

    groundpecker Chillin' With My Peeps

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    UPDATE: Still no blood in poop this morning. I believe i was correct about the sand causing them to have blood in poop.
    No more worms in poo either. I still am going to buy and use safeguard on my whole flock, sense it is about time i worm again.

    What is the waiting period before i can eat the eggs and will safeguard ruin hatching eggs?
     
  7. dawg53

    dawg53 Humble

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    Fourteen days after last dosing is the withdrawal period. Hatching eggs should be safe to hatch.
     

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