severe chronic constipation - need a chicken doctor

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  1. earthfriendlyfarm

    earthfriendlyfarm In the Brooder

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    I am the end of my knowledge and all the wonderful suggestions everyone has offered....but my 3 month old buff has always had constipation. We have had to dig out of her vent large marble sized obstructions. She spends a lot of time straining to poop. And nothing wil come out. So I take her and soak and clean and dislodge what I can. And even add a 2 or 3cc warm water enema. I give her acv and have given her molasses, and dewormed her and she expelled a 5 inch tape worm. So dewormed and even used antibiotics session. I have tried cooked egg yolks. It seems every week I have to take her to the spa to clean her little vent.

    Today is bad. She has a hard encrustation all around her little vent and on the inside. I dig out what I can, and give an enema and give her a cooked egg yolk, but she is very hot.

    Please help me find a chicken doctor in north georgia
     
  2. Glenda L Heywood

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    giving the enema is only causing the bowel to not work properly
    do this

    THE BEST METHOD IS THIS
    1 CUP OF PLAYSCHOOL SAND ADDED TO 1 GALLON OF THE CHICK FEED

    FEED THIS TILL CHICKENS ARE REGULATED
    AND NO IT IS NOT A GRIT


    you will need to use some wet mash probiotics for the chickens also

    THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKENS NOW
    but now you have a gut problem with the E.coli
    and it needs to have the Vitamin E put in the wet mash probiotic to help the E.coli gut problem
    do this

    now the
    natural probiotic recipe is is:
    1/2 qt of dry crumbles
    3/4 QT of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some
    1/4 cup of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetmer)
    mix good
    YOU CAN ADD LAST ON TOP OF WET MASH
    1/4 CUP OF APPLE SAUCE AS THEY WILL EAT THAT GOOD

    NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICKEN FED
    and add 1- 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chicken fed this wet mash
    putting it in the wet mash

    this for each chicken your treating
    so for each chick use 2 tbsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E

    twice a day for them till the manure is solid


    and feed each chicken
    2 tbsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
    then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles

    do this twice a day for a week
    till the chickens manure is right
    then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic
    then once a week for life


    All the while after mdicating the birds use ACV IN THE WATER
    do not use ACV with medication


    2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated they should have this at least 3-5 days a week
    then three days aweek after they are over coccidiosis

    the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem
    email me any questions so you are not confused
     
  3. threehorses

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    Quote:You'll want an avian vet. By the way, with what did you worm? Because not all wormers, not even my favorite ivermectin, will worm for tapes. And you're sure it was a tape, right? Flat? Segmented?

    By the way you'll want to worm all your flock with a tapeworm wormer.

    I'd call UGa and ask if they can make a recommendation for you:
    Athens, GA - Grace Wilson (U of GA) - 706-542-3221

    I don't know if Decatur is near, but here's another:
    Decatur, GA - Mimi Shepherd (For Pet's Sake Inc) - 404-248-8977

    Those are both avian certified vets, which is what you want. They can recommend a vet that would be appropriate, can potentially consult with them via phone for any questions, that might be more near you.

    I wonder if her cecum isn't emptying? Would you let us know if you find something out, please? I'd like to learn.
     
  4. Glenda L Heywood

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    I would say that the heat id from infection in the body
    especially if you wormed her and she expelled a worm

    she has a serious problem with the fecal matter not expelling out the body

    so hope the vets there abouts will know what to give her

    any questions email me
     
  5. earthfriendlyfarm

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    Okay, so found a local Vet who works with Chickens, since the UGA vet suggested was 2 1/2 hour drive one way. Took "Lil Eagle" in and he found she may have a viral infections with a secondary bacterial infection of the intestinal tract. Her temp was 107.4 by the time I got her there.Symptom of viral. She has had chronic constipation for 2 months. It gets better then worse, but at times she is impacted, I have to dig it out and administer a warm water enema. Which atleast would help with her severe straining. Poor baby! He thinks she could have a section of bowel that doesn't have the parastalsis it should. And then with me aiding her in eliminating enough to get her unblocked to go, could have caused a tear where bacteria got in and hence the secondary bacterial infections. So after a good exam, we decided to give her is Baytril liquid 1cc orally every othyer day for 3 times to try to get the viral symptoms undercontrol. and Banamine 0.3 ml twice daily for up to 2 weeks for the bacterial infection.

    Plus we are adding to support her recovery, metamucil to soften her stools, B6,B12 and folic acid to make sure she is not suffering from white meat disease and what ever she doesn't use will just be eliminated. Vitamine E 1000mg twice a day to help repair intestinal tract, add pumpkin to food along with parakeet grit, yogurt inbetween the anitbiotic treatments and vaseline put on her butt. I think that is it.

    I feel much better and I think she does too. On the way home, I was putting cool wet clothes under her wings and neck/tummy and she started to get pretty perky and ate a bunch of her starter mash. I just got to get her drinking more. I just checked her temperature and went from 107.4 down to 105 in 2 + hours. PLUS I was lightly tickling under her wings to let cool air get in and she started doing the cutest little sounds....I think she was laughing! xxoo Ain't nature great! Keep your fingers crossed we continue in this healing direction.

    Thanks for your help and support. Hope this helps some else.
     
  6. I'm glad you took her to the vet! Don't worry about her temp though. It's completely normal for a chicken.
     
  7. threehorses

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    Quote:Just fyi, so you'll know: Banamine is actually an anti-inflammatory. Baytril is the antibiotic. Is he concerned that she has bacillary white diarrhea disease? Pullorum? Did he test? If it's a concern, the NPIP has a testing program to eliminate the worry of that from your flock. When I was showing, I did that yearly.
     
  8. threehorses

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    Incidentally, when you say yogurt "inbetween" treatments - he means daily yes? Right now, rather than afterwards? Just checkin'. [​IMG]
     
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