I don't know alot about these lines.. The rooster is supposed to be a pumpkin that was hatched from some eggs off ebay.. He has a really pretty color and is very game.. "will fight with other roosters" which is why I am getting rid of him. The hen is half kansas city Shamo and half Malay (large).. They are both heavy which is why the shipping is so much. I am basically wanting to find a good home for them as I am currently overloaded with birds and need the room..... Thanks.