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showgirl- bowtie question

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by klf73, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    I never had an interest in the showgirls, didn't want one etc. Well now I HAD to have one and hatched 6. They all have the "bowtie" except one. What is the reason for having/not having this? I never paid attention before because "I was never gonna have one of THOSE" [​IMG] Any info appreciated

    Krista
     
  2. Hi Krista!
    I believe the difference is how many copies of the Na gene they have--- 1 copy and they have a bow-tie, 2 copies and they are fully naked necked.

    Where're the pics?
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
     
  3. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Songster

    Jan 13, 2007
    SE Mass
    Yes, one copy of the gene gives a bowtie, two copies and there's no bowtie. If you breed the one with no bowtie to a non, nn bird, you'll get 100% with a bowtie.
     
  4. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    Ok, slow day for my brain [​IMG]
    so if I breed the non bow tie to a regular silkie(or a silkie with the nn gene)? I get all bow tie? Please bear with me [​IMG]

    Krista

    oh, I will get pics later today(I hope)
     
  5. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Songster

    Jan 13, 2007
    SE Mass
    Yes, that's correct.

    silkie x bowtie sg = 50% silkie, 50% bowtie sg

    bowtie sg x bowtie sg = 25% silkie, 50% bowtie sg, 25% no bowtie sg

    bowtie sg x no bowtie sg = 50% bowtie sg, 50% non bowtie sg

    silkie x no bowtie sg = 100% bowtie sg
     
  6. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    another stupid question. What happens if it is bred to a regular silkie, not one that carries the sg gene. Would any hatch as sg?
    Krista
     
  7. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Songster

    Jan 13, 2007
    SE Mass
    Yes, as stated above:

    silkie x bowtie sg = 50% silkie, 50% bowtie sg

    silkie x no bowtie sg = 100% bowtie sg

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Hi Krista!
    There is no such thing as 'showgirl gene' [​IMG]

    If you breed a bow-tie Naked Neck bird to a feather-neck (regular) bird, you'll get half NN chicks and half feather neck chicks.
    The Na gene is easy because if a bird has Na, it is obvious. It doesn't hide like some other genes / traits.
    You can not get a naked neck chick unless one of the parents is obviously naked neck (be it bow-tied or fully naked necked).
    If I call them Naked Neck Silkies, it is easier for me than 'sg'.
    Terminology is an issue.
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
    eidted to add: showgirl and sizzle are not part of my vocabulary.
    blech... I keep up with all crosses and state all crosses 'as what they are', so there is no confusion.
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2008
  9. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    Actually it is the one right up front of this pic when they were 2 days old
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Hi Krista! I think that one is a homozygous Na (2 copies of Na) as opposed to a heterozygous Na (1 copy and bow-tie).
    Slobber&Drool! They are precious!
    ...What was the Q again?
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
     

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