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showgirl- bowtie question

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by klf73, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    I never had an interest in the showgirls, didn't want one etc. Well now I HAD to have one and hatched 6. They all have the "bowtie" except one. What is the reason for having/not having this? I never paid attention before because "I was never gonna have one of THOSE" [​IMG] Any info appreciated

    Krista
     
  2. Hi Krista!
    I believe the difference is how many copies of the Na gene they have--- 1 copy and they have a bow-tie, 2 copies and they are fully naked necked.

    Where're the pics?
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
     
  3. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 13, 2007
    SE Mass
    Yes, one copy of the gene gives a bowtie, two copies and there's no bowtie. If you breed the one with no bowtie to a non, nn bird, you'll get 100% with a bowtie.
     
  4. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    Ok, slow day for my brain [​IMG]
    so if I breed the non bow tie to a regular silkie(or a silkie with the nn gene)? I get all bow tie? Please bear with me [​IMG]

    Krista

    oh, I will get pics later today(I hope)
     
  5. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 13, 2007
    SE Mass
    Yes, that's correct.

    silkie x bowtie sg = 50% silkie, 50% bowtie sg

    bowtie sg x bowtie sg = 25% silkie, 50% bowtie sg, 25% no bowtie sg

    bowtie sg x no bowtie sg = 50% bowtie sg, 50% non bowtie sg

    silkie x no bowtie sg = 100% bowtie sg
     
  6. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    another stupid question. What happens if it is bred to a regular silkie, not one that carries the sg gene. Would any hatch as sg?
    Krista
     
  7. LilPeeps

    LilPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 13, 2007
    SE Mass
    Yes, as stated above:

    silkie x bowtie sg = 50% silkie, 50% bowtie sg

    silkie x no bowtie sg = 100% bowtie sg

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Hi Krista!
    There is no such thing as 'showgirl gene' [​IMG]

    If you breed a bow-tie Naked Neck bird to a feather-neck (regular) bird, you'll get half NN chicks and half feather neck chicks.
    The Na gene is easy because if a bird has Na, it is obvious. It doesn't hide like some other genes / traits.
    You can not get a naked neck chick unless one of the parents is obviously naked neck (be it bow-tied or fully naked necked).
    If I call them Naked Neck Silkies, it is easier for me than 'sg'.
    Terminology is an issue.
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
    eidted to add: showgirl and sizzle are not part of my vocabulary.
    blech... I keep up with all crosses and state all crosses 'as what they are', so there is no confusion.
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2008
  9. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    Actually it is the one right up front of this pic when they were 2 days old
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Hi Krista! I think that one is a homozygous Na (2 copies of Na) as opposed to a heterozygous Na (1 copy and bow-tie).
    Slobber&Drool! They are precious!
    ...What was the Q again?
    [​IMG]
    Lisa
     

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