silky chabo something gross in her mouth?

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  1. spish

    spish De Regenboog Kippetjes

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    my new silky chabo has something in / around her mouth, i got her just 5 days ago... she came in with 10 others. 2 others have crusty/closed swollen eyes since 2 days ago.
    any idea what im dealing with? the whole group is still in quarantine luckily (i always set new birds apart for a week just in case and for once it was lucky i did!!) i'm thinking some sort of pox?

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  2. spish

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    no ideas?
     
  3. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    I would say that it is probably a canker infection, although wet fowl pox can resemble it. With pox, mosquitoes would be present, and the weather would be warm, so I would say it's canker. Metronidazole (Flagyl, Fish Zole) 250 mg daily by mouth for 5 days is the usual treatment for canker. Canker is very infectious, spread through water containers. I would return any sick chickens, but the others could be carriers. Acidified Copper Sulfate 1/4 tsp per gallon of water may be used 3 days per month to help prevent it from coming back. Below is an excerpt from an article:

    Oral Canker

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    Oral Canker is a condition which can be found in a wide variety of birds and most commonly in pigeons.
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    It is caused by a motile protozoal parasite called Trichomonas gallinae.
    This parasite can cause caseous lesions of the mouth, pharynx, oesophagus and in certain circumstances, further down the digestive tract. These lesions can become extremely extensive.
    This causes the birds to stop eating and drinking, in severe cases the extensive nature of the lesions combined with not eating and drinking leads the chickens to die.

    Diagnosis

    Diagnosis is often based upon clinical signs but wet smears can be examined under the microscope to confirm clinical suspicions. Speak to your vet.
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    Treatment

    The treatment traditionally involved the use of a drug called Dimetridazole, however, this drug is no longer available or licensed for use in the UK.
    The affected chicken in these photos was treated with Metronidazole, this is a UK licensed medication but is not used in poultry therefore it had to be prescribed under the rules of the Veterinary Medicines Directorate cascade. This also means that any eggs the chicken may lay during treatment and for a specified period after treatment would need to be discarded. Her eggs must never be sold for human consumption. The owner of the hen was extremely pleased with the outcome and has supplied us with plenty of photos to monitor the hen’s progress.
     
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  4. casportpony

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    If it's not wet pox or canker it could be a bacterial infection. Can you take her to a vet?

    -Kathy
     
  5. spish

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    does canker really really stink? or would that be a sign of an infection? i mean it smells really bad in her mouth. my vet isnt very chicken savvy, she's just told me to treat for pox as she doesnt know what else it may be...and to use terramycin on the eyes of the chicken, if she starts 'coughing' im to go and pick up baytril from her....
     
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    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Never had to deal with canker, but I do know that both wet pox and bacterial infections smell. If she were mine I would carefully remove the pus with tweezers and qtips, then apply some betadine or iodine to the lesions.

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  7. Eggcessive

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    I have heard from others that it does smell very rotten, but I don't have any first hand experience. I suppose other infections may also smell bad. You might want to tell your vet to Google "canker in chickens," since many of the pictures look like yours. As far as respiratory diseases go, infectious coryza can have a very bad odor, and it commonly causes facial swelling, coughing, noisy breathing, and a thick yellow nasal drainage. There may also be pus in the eyes. It is treated with sulfa antibiotics, and sometimes in combination with Tylan.
     
  8. casportpony

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    Duh, wasn't thinking... ask for metronidazole just in case it's canker, maybe even take a piece of the pus with you. Baytril is also used to treat many respiratory infections, including Coryza, so that's definetly worth getting.

    -Kathy
     
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