I am new to this, and was really not prepared for the unholy mess ducks and geese make in the brooder. I have been desperately trying to find a better way to deal with it, and after several BAD ideas, have developed a few methods that seem to be helping. Since I have seen alot of other people with the same issue, thought I would share them and maybe some might work for you as well. [/img] This is the system I developed for the ducks. It is a combination dog feed/waterer. Because the feeder sits up a bit higher than teh water, they dont soak the food. The foil pan around the feeder helps keep the dropped food from being wasted as well. Even after a whole day, the food is relatively dry, and the majority of the brooder is dry-ish. [/img] This what I came up with for the geese. Because they crap on EVERYTHING, it seemed a good idea to keep their dishes in one small area, and maybe, possibly, they could avoid pooping in it. I have since elevated the feeder a bit since i took this picture though, raised it above butt height. They are happy to have the food and water right by eachother, and because of the foil pan, they do NOT soak the food, beleive it or not. I tried this with the ducks however, and they managed to turn the food into a moat, so it doesnt work for everybody. Initially I had the waterer covered with a round chick feeder lid, but the geese have gotten too big to really submerge their beaks in that, so I took it off. [/img] I love my turkeys! They are so CLEAN compared to the others! They aren't real bright though, and were getting too cold in the big wading pool as they didn't know enough to stay under the heat lamp. I had to put them in a rubber tote so they couldnt get so far away from the light. This cut down on space, so i decided needed to use a smaller area for feeders and waterer. I tried the goose method, but the turkeys got their food wet and didnt like that. I tried the red waterer, but they kept pooping in it as they liked to roost on top of the bottle. Now the new bottle is too narrow and wobbly for them to balance on, and the cover on the waterer keeps the doody out.