Went over to visit my Cage Builder....and Amish man in Belleville, PA. He had a my sample cage built...which was my original dimension of.... 2ft by 2ft I have now switched from getting 8-10 of those size cages to getting 6 cages that are... 2ft by 3ft The cages are all going to be made out of 1/2" by 1" galv.wire on sides and top....and 1/2" by 1" COATED WIRE for the floors...WHICH IS MY FAVORITE. So soft on the birds feet and sooo nice for cleaning. I'm paying the extra buck but it will be worth it. The cages will have two doors. They are 12" tall in the front and 10" in the back...2" sloping floors so eggs roll to the front of the cage. Will post pics when I get them!