Sour crop - vinegar & massage doen't seem to be working - help needed

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Herself, Dec 17, 2010.

  1. Herself

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    This has been going on for 4 days, and she seem worst. I've given her the raw ACV in her warer & at first she was drinking, but sour smell never has gone away. Now she won't drink. She would only try 2 little crumbs of oily bread & then refused to eat more. I have been massaging her crop gently downward, but last night & and again a few minutes ago she brought up nasty brown liquid again. Since then she seems worst & now she won't/ can't stand up & opens her month with every breath.

    I'm home alone & no way could I manage the impacted crop operation on by own. I've never done anything like that. Please can anyone tell me anything else to try.
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  2. Herself

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    Just wanted to add that now she is standing up again, but is still opening & closing beak as she breathes.

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  3. Herself

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    Should I try giving her some oil by syringe into her beak? I would really appreciate some advice.
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  4. Miss Lydia

    Miss Lydia Running over with Blessings Premium Member

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    I can't help but I hope someone will be here soon who can, sorry
     
  5. Pickles03

    Pickles03 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am so sorry to hear this....sadly I have no experience with this....
    how is your chicken doing now? Any success yet??

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  6. artsyrobin

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    here is info from a bycer on sour crop- do a search for threehorses

    sour crop

    Yes, it is sour crop. The food that is in there has dissolved into a toxic slush. If the crop is still full, you would want to cleanse it and then treat her with probiotics and give her organic apple cider vinegar water for two weeks if she's showing no other symptoms. You also will want to determine the cause of the problem in the first place and fix that.

    Glenda Heywood has a good article on cleansing a crop. PM me if you'd like it.

    You will want to do this as soon as possible because the liquid in that crop will grow bacteria and yeast and make your bird sick(er).

    The probiotics are to replace the bacteria that have been damaged by the toxic contents and pH of the crop dribbling into the rest of her digestive tract. They will also help fight against whatever bad bacteria and yeast make it to that part of the system. The organic apple cider vinegar (1 ounce ACV to one gallon of water) will help correct the digestive tract pH, provide more good bacteria, break down the feedstuff that are in the crop waiting to go through, and also provide more digestive enzymes to break down solid particles in the digestive tract. The pH of ACV at this solution is that of a healthy digestive tract which is unfriendly to good bacteria. the pH of the crop (and thus the digestive tract) now is unfortunately friendly to bad bacteria, so we must change that.

    If you see runniness of droppings after four days of treatment after the cleaned crop, let the board know. Let us know in any case, please.

    By the way - no more solid foods until she's over this for two weeks. No grains, no grit, nothing but crumbles, probiotics (plain yogurt, acidophilis tablets, etc), maybe the bread if it's soaked in something useful - BUT - it's too friendly for yeast infections, sooooo maybe not. Boiled egg yolks are a good healthy treat and will help her gut. You can also mix the yogurt in a small amount of unsweetened applesauce. The pectin is small, helps clean out the digestive tract of sludge from this, the pH is like ACV (can be used with it), and chickens like the taste so it's a good way to hide probiotics.

    hope this helps​
     
  7. Herself

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    She's the same. Still breathing with mouth opening & closing. Just not sure what to do next. I'm afraid of making things worst. Poor sweet little Buffy.[​IMG]

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  8. azygous

    azygous Chicken Obsessed

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    If you are desperate, you could give this a try:

    COPPER SULFATE SOLUTION

    Use this solution as a treatment for mycosis (mold infection) in the crop. An alternate name for the condition is "Thrush." Use the solution as a "follow-up" treatment after flushing with epsom salt solution--refer to the section for LAXATIVE SOLUTIONS.

    Dissolve .5 lb copper sulfate and .5 cup vinegar into 1 gallon of water for a "stock" solution. Dispense stock solution at the rate of 1 oz per gallon for the final drinking solution.

    An alternate method of preparing the solution is:

    dissolve 1 oz copper sulfate and 1 tablespoon of vinegar into 15 gallons water.

    Use either solution as the sole water source during the course of the disease outbreak. Copper sulfate is often referred to as "bluestone".


    I had my feed store order me a two-pound sack of copper sulfate, and I'm keeping it on hand in case any of my flock comes down with sour crop. However, I've never had to try this remedy out, so I can't vouch for it.

    Also, I've heard folks say that they pop a chewable vitamin C tablet down their chicken at first sign of sour crop, and it's supposed to help. Can't vouch for that one either.

    I've also heard of slitting open the crop, cleaning it out and then super-gluing the incision closed. You need a lot of nerve and a steady hand for this one.

    Good luck. I hope your patient makes it.
     
  9. Herself

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    My Buffy died last night. Thanks to all those who tried to help.

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  10. Kickin' Chickin'

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    I am so sorry for your loss . I am having the same problem with my BO "Spike". We are on day 3 and now I'm concerned that she is having laying problems as well.
     

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