Soybeans

Discussion in 'Feeding & Watering Your Flock' started by Lesalynn, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. Lesalynn

    Lesalynn Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Are soybeans toxic to chickens. I've read they have to be boiled, baked, somehow cooked to get toxins out...Is this true? I've had farmers tell me they scoop up excess soybeans and feed them to chickens, cows, pigs...whatever, and no adverse effects. My pa-in-law is convinced they will not hurt my chickens...but I want lots of info before I let them have anything. I've worked TOO hard putting together a flock for them to be wiped out by something like poisoning.
     
  2. digitS'

    digitS' Chillin' With My Peeps

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    There are, what are called, anti-nutrients in raw soybeans. They may not be "toxic" but they interfere with digestion.

    Usually, soymeal is used in livestock feed. But, you are talking about soybeans that have not been processed for oil - so, fullfat soybeans.

    Here is some information on feeding fullfat soybeans to livestock: University of Georgia, Poultry Science.. And, here is a quote, "If fullfat soybeans are not previously subjected to some form of heat treatment, their nutritive value is relatively low. Furthermore, raw fullfat soybeans may adversely influence animal health if fed."

    Steve
     
  3. Lesalynn

    Lesalynn Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you digitS'. I went to that website, lots of great info there. It says I can boil the soybeans in water anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours then let them dry. I can handle that. [​IMG] Got a couple fish cookers and butane tanks, so shouldn't take long. Again, thanks.
     
  4. rrgrassi

    rrgrassi Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Before you use soy, google "Soy Dangers" Although it mainly deals with the humans, I will not give soy products to the birds. The only soy stuff I eat is the fermented kind, but even then not much. I do not like the taste or smell of it.
     
  5. Organics North

    Organics North Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I share this feeling, and feed me, my family and my birds as soy free as possible.

    ON
     
  6. Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:I do NOT share tis view. I use soy as an efficient, nutritious, cost effective ingredient in the livestock feeds I design for both commercial and hobby farmers.

    Dr. Smith
     
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  7. NYREDS

    NYREDS Overrun With Chickens

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    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

    Quote:I do NOT share tis view. I use soy as an efficient, nutritious, cost effective ingredient in the livestock feeds I design for both commercial and hobby farmers.

    Dr. Smith

    I'm with you. It wasn't too long ago that Soy was going to save the world. Now some of the same sources say it's going to kill us all. Asians have used Soy as a protein source for generations & they seem to be doing ok.
    Personally I love Tofu, Edamame & toasted Soybeans & I eat them regularly.​
     
  8. MsPony

    MsPony Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The entire problem with soybeans, were they were the first GMO crop, making organic/heriloom EXTREMELY hard to find. It also contains an anti nutrient WHICH CAN NOT BE SOAKED OUT that inhibits hormones, particularly the pituitary gland hormones (can anyone say hypothyroidism?) I WILL NOT FEED any of it to any animals except my female rats. Because oddly enough, it prevents mammary tumors, but look at how scientifically grown even those have become.

    Its NOT nutritious and yes, cost efficient because its a crap filler just like corn.
     
  9. Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Your OPINION that both corn and soybeans are "crap" can not be supported in the litrrature of livestock nutrition.

    I do not care what you eat or what you feed your birds. That is your choice. I do care that accurate information is used, though.
     
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  10. MsPony

    MsPony Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

    Quote:Your OPINION that both corn and soybeans are "crap" can not be supported in the litrrature of livestock nutrition.

    Theres also little info out there, in consideration to other animals, considering that the biggest supporter of the corn and soy industry is livestock.

    Its not opinion necessarily, all that is fact.​
     

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