Splash bleeding Red?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Goose and Fig, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    I wanted to use this juvenile roo for a color project next year, but he's getting more and more red bleeding through in his wings and neck. How likely is he to pass this on to blue offspring?
    If I breed his blue offspring back to eachother, will the resulting blacks have the red as well?

    Thanks!
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  2. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    Hey Amy, I don't have any help on your question, but now I seen what you mean by the comb on your roo, he does look like a Cochin like you said, but whre did the pea comb come from?

    Hope someone can give answer soon.
     
  3. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    Hey Clint- I have no idea where he got that! I hope the red doesn't throw a wrench in things. It didn't show up until he started getting his adult feathers. Just starting to crow- sounds like somebody stepped on a duck.
     
  4. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Red bleeding through is likely to be passed on. Autosomal red typically doesn't show up until the birds start maturing and getting adult plumage.
     
  5. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    Quote:Would it be visible in blue or black offspring? None of the siblings have the red, but none of them have his pea comb either [​IMG]

    Also- is it more likely to show up in males than females?
     
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  6. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Quote:Would it be visible in blue or black offspring? None of the siblings have the red, but none of them have his pea comb either [​IMG]

    Also- is it more likely to show up in males than females?

    Yes, it will be visible in blue or black offspring. Theoretically it should show up equally in both genders (it is autosomal red, not sex-linked gold), but in my experience it shows up more in the males. In the girls it is more likely to show on their breasts, not their wings. I think there is something about testosterone having an impact on red pigment--maybe Tim or David or Henk will chime in.
     
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  7. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    So- how hard is it to breed out? Say- if I only use this roo for f1? Is it a dominant trait that all the offspring would get?
     
  8. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Less likely to show in female offspring, but it will still be carried. As with anything, you can eventually breed it out as long as one of the parents has the alternative genes. But it may take an awful lot of chicks hatched, waiting for them to mature and then selecting against them. And of course that means what will you do with all the chicks that don't make the grade?

    If you really want to try, then get him black hens that come from completely black parents--as dark as you can obtain--who show no red leakage.
     
  9. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    Ah pooey. I have to start with light columbian. I'll probably try it and see how the f1s mature. Luckily- we've got plenty of room to grow some out, and lots of locals willing to purchase those thst don't quite pass.

    Thanks Sonoran!
     

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