Hello Well some of my chicks are 4-5 weeks old now and i see some pecking order scruffs starting to happen in the morning. It seems to only be in the morning wile there still in the tub, when i move them to there outside pen the settle down. The outside pen is actually a tad bit smaller than the inside tub. Pen is 4 1/2 ' squared and the inside pen is a 300 gallon rubbermaid trough BOUT 59" roundish. So i thought i would take a good look at them and see if i could get an idea about there sex. I have 4 Buff Orp's and 4 EE's about 5 weeks and i have 7 RIR that are only about 2 weeks old. This is all new to me so any help is appreciated. I looked at there combs not a lot of differance there, but the 1 that has a larger comb then the others doesn't have the "spur" that i see on the others. What i mean buy spur is on the inside of there legs a little up from there feet there is a Nail/claw starting to develope. I mean Just developing it looks like a little pimple like formation with a rounded fingernail looking center. There on 3 of the 4 of both the Orps and the EE's (That sucks for me if these are males). The combs are slightly varied on them but this was a noticable differance. So I guess the question is do hens develop spurs, and if not when do the males start to develope them for accurate sex determination. The RIR are only 2 weeks or so and there already starting to sort out a pecking order. I will try to take pics tonight and post them. I found this in another thread. Quote:I didnt see any of these things stand out for the chicks, at least for me. I need the chicken GURU to come by the house and give me some hands on. Is there a picture turtoral anywhere that shows the above characteristics????????