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St. John's Wort question

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by jcasaglov, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. jcasaglov

    jcasaglov Out Of The Brooder

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    I've been reading the threads on Marek's disease and it looks like a potential treatment is St. John's Wort (hypericum). I have some questions about how and when to give to my chickens. They were confirmed to have Marek's disease via Necropsy at UC Davis and I have now lost 15 out of my 27 chicks. As of today, I don't have any that are exhibiting any symptoms, but with this disease I find the pullets get sick and die very fast- some within a day, others within 5 days.

    My question is do I only treat the pullet who has symptoms or can I treat all my chickens even though they appear to be healthy and fine? I know the hypericum has to be absorbed through the mucous membrane for it to be effective- could I just add it to their water supply? My husband bought capsules at .3% so what would be the proper dose for each pullet or the total of 12? They are 16-18 weeks old now.

    Thanks so much
     
  2. jcasaglov

    jcasaglov Out Of The Brooder

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    Anyone? Is there anyone who can help me?
     
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  4. jcasaglov

    jcasaglov Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks for the thread links- I had read all of those and my question was very specific. I just didn't want to have to go back and read through 75 pages of one thread to locate an answer and was hoping someone here could answer for me. I lost another chicken this morning and would like some advice on using St. John's Wort without harming the rest of my chickens. I guess it doesn't matter since they are all dying anyway. :(

    I'm very sad right now.
     
  5. sara1226

    sara1226 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I know this is an old post, but I'm sorry no one answered you. It's a very hard thing to deal with. I have only had chickens since May, but we have lost 6 out of 8 to Mareks. We are very attached to them, they are our pets, not for dinner and we love them. In the beginning I wasn't aware that St. John's wort could possibly help. I have since been using it as a prevention, because the necropsy and extensive state lab tests concluded I have the most serious and fatal strain of Mareks on our property. I dissolve one tablet into 3/4 gallon of distilled water twice a week into my current flocks drinking water for 2-3 hours to ensure they all go to drink it, but aren't drinking it all day long, consuming too much of it. I also rotate days using probiotics, ACV, and a vitamin blend called poultry cell. I now have not lost any more chickens in 3 months. I did however have a 2.5 month time gap in which I hadn't added any chickens... So I'd have to do some math and consider the incubation period of the virus.... I could start losing some again any day now, but I'm trying my best not to! I have had two become a bit lethargic recently, but after some additional St. John's wort and a few doses of collodial silver, they showed HUGE improvement. It's a day to day thing now.

    I just wanted to ask you for an update.. Did you have any survivors? Did you try to add any? I sure hope you didn't have to give up on chicken keeping. I fear that is my fate some day, but I have a couple more things I will try first. I also spent a lot of time researching Mareks vaccines.. I even called vaccine manufacturers to learn all I could. I got a wealth of knowledge from the calls I made, if any one wants to know more about what I was told please message me.
     
  6. jcasaglov

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    Thank you SO much for responding to my post from last summer. So much was going on with our chickens and then when I didn't get a response it just seemed to add to my anquish. Out of 27 chickens, we ended up with 6 and with those, I wasn't sure if they were going to survive. I assume I had a similar serious strain of Marek's. And like you, I had grown attached to these chickens, some of which I had to cull myself. Once my favorite chicken died, I was done. I called the feed store where I had got them and they agreed to take back the few I had remaining and give us adults that had been vaccinated.

    In order to get our chicken run/coop ready we had the top layer of dirt removed from the run and had sprayed the entire place (coop, dirt, fencing) with a product that is supposed to kill everything, virus, bacteria, everything. Then we covered the ground with about 6 inches of new DG and started completely fresh. I ended up getting with 15 adults and so far everyone is doing great with no illnesses and are laying eggs just fine. The downside is I don't have any breeds from my original group which I loved and I am not attached at all with these. a couple are somewhat friendly but since they were not handled much they are not friendly.

    Sorry about your chickens, I hope to never have to go through that again!
     
  7. sara1226

    sara1226 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Do you remember what the product was that you used to clean? All of my current chickens have been vaccinated, although I know it is no guarantee they will make it either.
     
  8. jcasaglov

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    Hello sorry it has taken me so long to reply- my husband had it made up from a compound pharmacy that he works with. It is usually in a topical form but they made it into a liquid spray. To be honest I have no idea if it worked or if we got lucky with getting vaccinated adults this time around and removing all the dirt etc. I will probably never get chicks just to play it safe. Hope your hens are doing well :)
     

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