RE: an earlier thread on this site. Beware of this breeder. Their facilities are not the best, poor chickens are kept in cages (no coop) and don't even have nest boxes, roosting bars or able to free range. I also noticed dirty drinking water (I snuck a driveby). They also require all monies up front even though they can't deliver chickens for several months (I inquired via telephone) which even the big hatcheries don't ask for until the chicks are acutally being shipped.