We would be VERY wary of any dealings with this company & this couple. They are located outside of State College, PA. In July we ordered 16 birds from this breeder. They had several of the rare breeds we were looking for. The deal was they would hatch the chicks and then we could pick them up in about 4 months once they could guarantee the sex. (we only wanted hens) They wanted all the monies up front ($422.00, yes their chickens are expensive) which we were hesitant about but wanted to trust them so went ahead anyway. Every time we've bought chickens from a private party we paid upon delivery. We would have even understood if they asked for half down and the balance on delivery since they do spend several months feeding and caring for the chicks. We were due to pick up the six week old (not 4 month old as promised) chicks in about 2 weeks. Unfortunately, last week we were told my husband's company was transferring him out to Los Angeles. We contacted Todd & Lori and explained the situation and asked if since our time was short and we had lots to do to get ready for such a big move if they would be willing to sell the chicks for us and we would split with them 75/25. We were told no they couldn't do that. We then asked simply for $300 of our money back (again trying to be fair and give them $122 for their cost and care) as their website does say you can return birds within 30 days for a full refund and here we weren't even going to pick them up. They are refusing to work with us at all. We have only received emails from Lori asking us to speak to Todd on the telephone. We were advised by our attorney to stick to emails so as to have a record of all conversations. Now Lori says Todd doesn't use the computer which is hard to believe for someone running a business. Bottom line is they are refusing to negotiate or work with us at all nor refund any of our money, even the $37 they promised a month ago they would refund to us when all the Partridge Rocks hatched were roosters. We suspect they will turn right around and sell our chickens and make a double profit. We realize shame on us for paying so much money up front but we like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Clearly we were wrong and have come to realize we are not dealing with ethical people. I'm sure when they see this they will write a scathing reply (as we saw they did to another negative post/review) and if they do we will not dignify it with a reply but we did feel people should be aware of the way they do business.