Starting a new breed/color?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Riven, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. Riven

    Riven Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm fairly new to chickens as far as really getting into breeding etc.

    I've got egg layers, and have had various banties for years, my parents have had them for a long time, etc.

    So I have general experience, but have decided to get into breeding some. I've got some pens going up and all that, but have a question about working towards a new goal.

    I have a rooster who is a cochin bantam cross, and I absolutely love him, he looks like a cochin bantam, but his colors are awesome. He's mottled on the chest, with green and reds in his tail and body.

    I'm planning on trying to replicate him. Is this acceptable in the chicken world? I breed and show quality chinchillas, and I understand that quality and consistency takes work and time ( usually lots of that). I know about general genetics, and much more about chinchilla genetics obviously, and am willing to learn about "chicken genes"


    I was just wondering if I could get some opinions on it, and maybe some advice on the best ways to work towards my goal!

    Thanks!
     
  2. chickNjake

    chickNjake Chillin' With My Peeps

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    well first off we gotta see some pictures!!! [​IMG]
    second, there are a lot of people working on projects, but it does take effort, right now I'm doing a little work on blue birchen cochins.

    It is a lot easier to make new colors by crossing birds in the same breed. to do it by adding one like yours will take more generations, but it will be entirely possible!

    If you post pics there are a lot of people who can help you and tell you which colors to cross him to [​IMG]
     
  3. Riven

    Riven Chillin' With My Peeps

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    He is an OE x cochin bantam.

    The pics don't do him justice, his tail is gorgeous green.

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    His current hen who isn't laying, but that's a different thread.

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    He is bantie size and body style, just the coloring, and the tail is a bit longer than normal I believe.


    Thanks!
     
  4. MoodyChicken

    MoodyChicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    He looks like a mottled BBRed. Very pretty! Mottling is recessive, so you'd have to backcross to produce more.
     
  5. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Not quite BBR--no duckwing pattern on hte wing triangles, If it were BBR, the proper name for the variety would be spangled (another oddity of hobby names)
     
  6. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Indeed.
    He looks like a mottled black that lost most of his melanizers. The matching hens would be mottled black looking.
     
  7. Riven

    Riven Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Awesome!

    I was thinking I'd need to go with mottled, and I read that they are recessive. Which kind of puzzles me on him, because his dad is a silver duck wing OE... so how did he get the mottled pattern?

    Or is the mottled pattern not recessive and just not dominant?

    I think I have a couple mottled chicks out of some eggs from my mom's house, but I might just try to talk her out of one of her hens if I can't find any!

    Thanks for all of the comments and help so far!
     
  8. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Both dad & mom carried mottled. If only one copy is present it wouldn't show, so dad was Mo mo. Half dad's offspring will inherit Mo from him and the other half will inherit mo. Your bird obviously inherited mo [​IMG]

    Likewise, mom may not have been mottled (mo mo), but split for the trait (Mo mo) also.

    That's how recessive genes ocasionally pop up seemingly out of nowhere.
     
  9. Riven

    Riven Chillin' With My Peeps

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    A quick question again, would the coloring on him, not the mottling, be dominant probably? Hmmm....
     
  10. flyingmonkeypoop

    flyingmonkeypoop Overrun With Chickens

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    I just learned something new. From what I have read here it sounds like the copper (?) marans where the males almost look brown red (red birchen) and the hens are solid black.
     

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