I wasn't sure (and still aren't) of where to put this post but wanted to show off my new avatar. Cooper came to us as a stray 9 years ago. We gave him to the dog warden but expressed an interest if no one claimed him. He has been our baby ever since. He is NOT good with children, other dogs or chickens. He does herd the cats and doesn't hurt them. It takes a lot of work to keep him as a pet but we've done it successfully for 9 yrs. He's very protective of my hubby, myself and our home. My point being, Australian Shepherds are not meant for a docile family or with very small children. If you have Aussies, do you agree? We went to obedient school when he was very young and learned that he is quite a block head. lol I'm not sure if they live a long time or not as he is 82 pounds. Most Aussies don't weigh that much. Maybe because he has a large head and that the breeder knew he wasn't show material, they never looked for him. (He did run away several times until we fenced in our whole back yard.) AND HE IS AFRAID OF COWS! ISN'T HE A BEAUTY!