Suggestions for swollen feet on pullet???

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by teach1rusl, Dec 15, 2013.

  1. teach1rusl

    teach1rusl Love My Chickens

    My cochin/d'uccle mixed pullet has swollen feet. It is not bumblefoot, and I don't THINK it's scaley leg mite related (the scales look healthy to me). Her legs appear healthy as well, but her feet and toes almost look deformed due to their thickness/swolleness. Elephantiasis is what popped into my head when I noticed them today. A few years ago, we acquired an adult d'uccle roo who had scaley leg mites - his feet looked rather lumpy and deformed due to scale build-up, and this does not look like that. The pads of her feet look healthy, and the scales themselves look fine to me...not flaking, lifted, or dry.

    Background: This girl is about 6 months old, hatched here from an ebay egg. I feel guilty that I just noticed this today, as she does sit on my lap sometimes for petting. She hasn't been very active for a good two months. Initially I just thought it was because she was a bit of an outsider and that she liked to be close to her "mom" (the hen who hatched her is broody quite a bit, and so stays inside a lot). But over the past month or so I figured that maybe she had some internal issue that I couldn't fix, and so had somewhat resigned myself to losing her sometime this winter. Of course now I'm thinking that she must have had this foot issue for all this time and I'm just discovering it...that maybe whatever it is hurts her feet and that's why she isn't active. She is able to get up to the roost each evening, but sometimes seems to lose balance while doing things on the floor/ground (I'd assumed it was because of her feathered feet or an internal ailment of some kind causing weakness).

    These pics aren't the best, but hopefully someone can give me some advice...Freckles is a very sweet, soft natured little pullet. I would love to help her if I could figure out how.

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  2. granny hatchet

    granny hatchet Tastes like chicken Premium Member

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    are you sure her feet has been like this and its not a bit of frostbite? im not very good at this though. hope you get some good answers. im just guessing
     
  3. teach1rusl

    teach1rusl Love My Chickens

    Well, I'm not sure how long they've been this way, because I just noticed them today. But it's definitely not frostbite, as the hen who hatched her was a serama, so I just left her in my serama coop, which is always kept above 40 degrees (typically at least 45 in there). But I appreciate you offering possibilities...
     
  4. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict Premium Member

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    She seems a little young for gout, but I don't know that many reasons for swollen feet. I know that too much sodium or calcium in the diet, vitamin A deficiency, mycotoxins, and kidney damage from infectious bronchitis can cause it. Hopefully you can figure out the reason for the swelling.
     
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  5. teach1rusl

    teach1rusl Love My Chickens

    You know eggcessive, I read some things on gout when I was searching for possibilities. All of my flocks are fed standard layer crumbles, and oyster shell is free choice. I do feed scraps and treats, but only in small amounts, and not every day. So I can't see sodium or calcium being a cause... I think I'm going to just try soaking her feet in warm epsom salt baths to see if any that helps any...might give her a brief relief if nothing else... But I think there has to be an underlying cause - wish I knew what it was... [​IMG]
     
  6. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict Premium Member

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    A few other causes of gout I found in reading were dehydration, sulfa drugs, and too high of protein (over 30%) in the diet. Some cases are genetic.
     
  7. dawg53

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    I believe she's too young to have gout. There might be some type of vitamin deficiency or worst case mycoplasma synoviae (MS.) However, with MS there are other symptoms. I'm leaning toward a vitamin deficiency. Avian Super Pack might help but I dont know if it's too late or not to help. Metacam should help reduce pain and swelling.
     
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  8. teach1rusl

    teach1rusl Love My Chickens

    Thanks for the suggestions Dawg. I think an anti-inflamatory sounds like a good idea. Vitamins couldn't hurt either...
     
  9. Eggcessive

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  10. teach1rusl

    teach1rusl Love My Chickens

    I never updated this "case."
    This little pullet's feet continued to progress in swelling, to the point of bleeding. I took her to the vet to have her put down. He wasn't positive, but he told me it LOOKED like a bumblefoot infection in the extreme, or something along those lines. She definitely had some type of infection in both feet. He did not think gout. Rather than putting her down, I tried antibiotics and vitamins for a week (shots - I hate giving shots!), but no improvement. So I did have her put down after that week.
     

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