I have both in juvenile form, it is very hard on them to ship as day olds. But they can be shipped now. They are about 4-5 weeks old and should begin laying soon. I can sex the pharaohs but not the A&M if you don't find them locally and are interested I can ship them to you for cost of box $10 and actual shipping (probably around $30 since it has to be shipped express) plus $3 per bird. They have been raised on only Certified organic feed and are very healthy.