OK - I'm the first to admit that I am not up on any kind of internet lingo, and I wasn't sure what people meant by a "troll". I've been away for a few days, and came back to read the whole bestbestbuddy cardboard box thing, and the suspicions of other members. So, is that really what some people are doing with their spare time - wasting the time and energy of well-meaning folks who are just trying to help others? It reminds me of the dreaded words we used to hear from my mom as kids - "If you can't find something useful to do, I'll find something for you!".