The difference in curly and smooth breasted Sebastopols

Discussion in 'Geese' started by animaladdictions, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. animaladdictions

    animaladdictions Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So it seems there's some confusion about smooth breasted Sebs.....well, for me at least. :) I was always under the impression that "smooth breasted" was a literal term and meant a curly feathered bird with straight feathers on the breast. Several people I've talked to however, describe what looks to me to be a "normal" feathered goose (usually having a few longer feathers in spots) as being "smooth breasted". So I'm calling on all you pros out there to set me straight on this....what is "smooth breasted"? Thanks!!!
     
  2. CelticOaksFarm

    CelticOaksFarm Family owned, family run

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    Smoothes can have limited longer curls, and more people should keep some in their breeding flocks to help with wing tips and other issues when breeding.
     
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  3. animaladdictions

    animaladdictions Chillin' With My Peeps

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    How do you achieve show quality birds if you breed with "regular" feathered Sebs? I guess what I'm trying to say is, won't you end up with some offspring having long curls and some having none at all? I agree the most important thing to breed for is good health, I just wouldn't want my future customers to be unhappy if they buy a gosling and it grows up to look like a normal feathered goose. I guess I'd just advertise as having smooth birds in my breeding program? My goal is to have birds that look like Cottage Rose's breeders. She has such beautiful Sebs!
     
  4. MNShepherdess

    MNShepherdess Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Cottage Rose uses smooth breeders :)
     
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  5. CelticOaksFarm

    CelticOaksFarm Family owned, family run

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    Yep she sure does, we are getting a new goose and gander from her. The goose is a smooth and lovely.
     
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  6. pete55

    pete55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi

    The main difference is the the Smooth Breasted has one Curled Feather gene whereas Curled Sebastopols have a pair. Breeding a Smooth Breated to a Curled will give you 50% Smooth Breasted and 50% Curled offspring.

    In the UK the Smooth Breasted is more popular and more easily found. Also they are recognised for showing in the UK. Our best Seb is a female Smooth Breasted. She is on the left of the picture with flowing feathers from the scapulars over the wings and looks very elegant.

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  7. RedRoosterFarm

    RedRoosterFarm **LOVE MY SERAMAS**

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  8. flaming007

    flaming007 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Can you get a smooth breasted by mating curly breasted on curly breasted birds?
     
  9. pete55

    pete55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Curly x Curly should give 100% Curly. In most cases Curly breasted have a pair of Curled genes though I have seen a bird that was genetically a Smooth breasted but did have a little curling on the breast.
     
  10. swheat

    swheat The Bantam Barn

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    I crossed Sebastopols X Pomeranian(saddleback) and got one offspring that is curly breasted, the other five are smooth breasted. I didn't think that was possible and sure is a surprise.
     

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