Well, I dont think I am winning. I am bloodied and ticked off. This morning I just about wrung Lily's neck, we had a real set to. She grabbed me HARD, and I grabbed HER hard, and we went round and round. So I thought, perhaps she was grabbing my hand since she sees it as a threat. The good Lord knows bopping her back when she bites me isn't teaching her anything. So I thought I would try a new tactic. This one is REALLY gonna try my patience. And it hurts too. I will try this for a week or so, and if her behavior doesnt settle, I guess she is a goner. I know thats what I did with a badly pecking parakeet, she just had to learn not to be upset with my "hand". Hope and pray it works with Lily and she doesnt bloody me enough that I kill her in the meantime! So every time she would go to peck me, I would stroke her gently. She really didnt know what to make of it, I could tell, but heavens I was ready to kill her. She bloodied my hand in three dif places, and well as giving some good scratches in several more. She continues to bite like this, and I am getting rid of her. I will wait til puberty is past, but this behavior is really unacceptable. I just dont understand it. She comes running to me when i am standing up, or when she is scared, but its like she doesnt know the hand and I am attached. If she can bloody me this badly now, I can only imagine how much worse damage she can do when older.