The origins of the chicken bans?

Discussion in 'Local Chicken Laws & Ordinances (and how to change' started by HenPenny, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. HenPenny

    HenPenny Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Does anyone have any therories about why the entire world decided to write laws and ordinaces to ban chickens? Is there a time line, a list of horrible incidents that casused the blanket law to be implemented on such a wide scale. I'm thinking was it something like a one man crusade it seemed like a good idea deal Like Prohibition or seat belt laws. Make the world better by forbidding having a chicken in your yard.
    Ideas or thoughts about this?
     
  2. Sunny Side Up

    Sunny Side Up Count your many blessings...

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    My personal opinion/theory is that it started post WW2, when communities began to embrace a more "modern" lifestyle. A lot of conveniences became available such as supermarket shopping. Things that were new were presumed to be improved. Why bother keeping chickens in your backyard when you can easily buy packaged eggs & chicken at the supermarket? And then when most folks got used to getting their eggs & meat at the supermarket, they perceived those still keeping backyard chickens as old-fashioned & unprogressive.
     
  3. Denninmi

    Denninmi Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I suspect that big agriculture and food processors spread some "good old boy" style political influence around back then, too. A network of small backyard growers producing their own food wouldn't be good for profits, now would it?

    Not that that sort of thing goes on yet today.[​IMG]
     
  4. stoneeater

    stoneeater Out Of The Brooder

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    I agree with the WW 2 comment and people moving to the suburbs. But reading down this list of laws from the city chicken, it's still happening today.
    Beachwood, OH. Just passed an emergency ordinance prohibiting fowl, ducks and goats, with no grandfathering clauses allowed.

    Seriously? It was an emergency to ban chickens? So I'd think that nowadays, the newer chicken laws are someone got annoyed and went to their local city council person and slowly chisled away the laws. It;s like when people from the city move out to the country and are shocked that there's people who own chickens and cows right next door! Why that's just ruining their country experience. So they complain. And slowly more laws take effect.
    http://home.centurytel.net/thecitychicken/chickenlaws.html
     
  5. Mac in Wisco

    Mac in Wisco Antagonist

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    Quote:That's pretty much it. As more and more folks started buying everything at the grocery store the backyard flocks disappeared. Then with the growth of suburban neighborhoods where everyone wanted the nice picturesque setting of the small house with a picket fence and carefully manicured lawn, ordinances were enacted to control everything that might detract from that picturesque scene. Ordinances that include how high you can let your grass get, where you can park your vehicles on your own property, where you can store trash, how many pets you can have, etc. Farm animals were just too "hillbilly" for most folks.
     
  6. Mac in Wisco

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    Quote:Not so much. They didn't squash the backyard grower to create their markets, but their markets did cause the demise of keeping yard birds. With the proliferation of cheap food most just found it easier to go to the corner store and buy what they needed.

    As Sunny Side Up said, there was a modernization of our lifestyles after WWII where everything was supposed to be "easier" and everybody wanted to keep up with Joneses. Radar-ranges, automatic dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, a car in every driveway. Many shunned the ways of the past as too pauperish.
     
  7. 3goodeggs

    3goodeggs pays attention sporadically

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    Mac, I can't decide if I enjoyed that song or not. [​IMG] X [​IMG]
    Pete Seeger?
    sad. but, if everyone wanted 'country', there would be no 'country' left.
    that too is sad.
    So, we just try harder to take good care of the bits we can.
     
  8. Mac in Wisco

    Mac in Wisco Antagonist

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    Quote:I don't take it as commentary about city/suburban life vs country life, but as satire about conformity. It would seem that everybody has to act and look the same. To be anything in life you must go to college. Your grass must be mowed, your leaves must be raked. Dandelions in the yard? Oh my. A chicken coop in the backyard with real actual live chickens? I do believe you're giving me the vapors...
     
  9. Huskeriowa

    Huskeriowa Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I just read an article that stating that housing values across the country have declined at a rate that exceeds the percentage of fall from the great depression. With people out of work and realizing that the value of their possessions are fleeting, I believe that the 'attitude' of the country is turning. There are economic reasons that backyard chickens became passé but I think that reality of todays and possibly tomorrows economy have hit a lot of people squarely in the face.

    I am not sure when this website was established but I would guess that if it were in place six years ago it would not get nearly the number of hits that it does today. Who knows, maybe something that has been viewed as hillbilly the since WWIIII will begin to be considered common sense again.
     
  10. HenPenny

    HenPenny Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I suspect that sort of thing may have been going on and still is. There is a huge attack to close downand forbid small farms to sell goods. Even the choice to buy raw milk is being outlawed. A big battle is going on now in California.

    http://www.rosecreekfarms.com/WAPF/S.510.htm
    Senate Food Safety Bill

    Present 2010

    Action Alerts - 2010 Action Alerts

    Monday, 04 October 2010

    The Senate has returned home without voting on S.510, the Food Safety Modernization Act, but unfortunately the bill is still alive. Before returning home, the Senate started the process to bring S.510 to the floor for a vote, and it is likely that they will finally vote on it shortly after they re-convene on November 15.

    This bill greatly expands FDA's authority over both processed foods and fresh fruits and vegetables, and would give FDA authority to impose extensive, burdensome requirements on even the smallest processing facilities and farms who sell to local consumers.

    We need the Tester-Hagan amendment to protect our vulnerable local businesses!

    The Senators are back in their home States for the election season. This is an important time to publicize this issue and get their commitment to support the Tester-Hagan amendment!

    To take Action or for complete Article "Click here".

    January 2010

    The Senate Food Safety Bill S.510 has passed committee on the Senate floor and is now waiting for the full Senate vote that will make this bill a law. This is the last vote needed before it is law. We must work fast to contact our Senators and get this bill amended to protect our small farms.

    October 2009

    The debate on food safety is heating up in Congress. Last Thursday, October 22, the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions (HELP) held a hearing on S. 510, the Senate version of the draconian House food safety bill (H.R. 2749).

    While FDA claimed that the bill only covers food in interstate commerce, the language of the bill would impose sweeping regulations on all farms and food processors. Meanwhile, S. 510 does not address the problems of un-inspected imported foods or the contamination from feedlots.
    We think this bill is too bad to be fixed and should be defeated!

    ACTION TO TAKE:
    1. Contact both of your U.S. Senators and ask them to vote NO on S.B. 510 because it will harm local and sustainable foods without fixing the real problems in the mainstream industrial food system.

    For contact information, go to www.congress.org or call the Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121.

    2. Also contact the Chair and Ranking Member of the HELP Committee:
    Chairman Harkin, (p): 202-224-0767, (f): 202-224-5128
    Senator Enzi, Ranking Member, (p): 202-224-6770

    You will have the greatest impact by faxing a personal letter or visiting their district offices in-person. Next best is a phone call, followed by an email.

    TALKING POINTS
    1. Although FDA stated that the bill only applies to food in interstate commerce, the language of the bill does not contain any such limitation. On its face, the bill applies to any farm or food producer, regardless of the size or scope of distribution. If the intent truly is to limit the bill to food that is crossing state lines, then it must be amended. And even then, the bill would still negatively impact small farmers and food processors who live near state lines and who cross state lines to reach local farmers markets and coops.

    2. The major foodborne illness outbreaks and recalls have all been within the large, industrial food system. Small, local food producers have not contributed to the highly publicized outbreaks. Yet both the House and Senate bills subject the small, local food system to the same, broad federal regulatory oversight that would apply to the industrial food system. Increased regulations, record-keeping obligations, and the penalties and fees could destroy small businesses that bring food to local communities.

    3. FDA regulation of local food processors is unnecessary and burdensome. Federal regulations may be needed for industrial processing that source raw ingredients from multiple locations (sometimes imported from other countries) and ship their products across the country, but federal regulation is overkill for small, local processors. Existing state and local public health laws are enough for local food sources.

    4. Relying on HACCP will harm small processors. S. 510 applies a complex and burdensome Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP) system to even the smallest local food processors. Although the concept of preventative controls is a good one, the federal agencies' implementation of HACCP, with its requirements to develop and maintain extensive records, has already proven to be an overwhelming burden for a significant number of small, regional meat processors across the country. In the meat industry, HACCP has not eliminated the spread of E-coli and other pathogens and has resulted in fewer independent inspections of the large slaughter plants where these pathogens originate. At the same time, small, regional processors have been subject to sanctions due to paperwork violations that posed no health threat. While HACCP plans are suited for larger factories, applying a HACCP system to small, local foods processors could drive them out of business, reducing consumers' options to buy fresh, local foods.

    5. S. 510 puts FDA on the farm. S. 510 calls for FDA regulation of how farms grow and harvest produce. Given the agency's track record, it is likely that the regulations will discriminate against small, organic, and diversified farms. The House version of the bill directs FDA to consider the impact of its rulemaking on small-scale and diversified farms, but there are no enforceable limits or protections for small diversified and organic farms from inappropriate and burdensome federal rules.

    6. S 510 favors foreign farms and producers over domestic. Both S 510 and H.R. 2749 create incentives for retailers to import more food from other countries, both because the bills burden family farms and small business and because it will be practically impossible to hold foreign food facilities to the same standards and inspections. The bills will create a considerable competitive disadvantage for ALL U.S. agriculture and food production (see analysis at http://ftcldf.org/news/news-20Oct2009-2.html).



    NEWS & ALERTS:

    House Passes Landmark Food Safety Bill: The US House of Representatives passed a food safety bill on Thursday that promises far-reaching reform of how food is processed and grown, intended to boost food safety and consumer confidence.
    READ MORE >>

    Food Safety Bill Needs Work The food safety bill that passed the House last Thursday faces an uphill struggle in the Senate. READ MORE >>

    Politics of the Plate: Casting the Food Safety Net too Wide A bill recently passed by the House could have detrimental effects on small farmers. READ MORE >>

    Food Insecurity NOT Food Safety The FDA has already demonstrated its inability to protect us from food borne illness outbreaks. In fact, Congress is giving them a reward for their failures, in an effort to look like they are doing the right thing for America. READ MORE >>

    FDA releases commodity-specific safety rules for melons, tomatoes and leafy greens The Food and Drug Administration has released draft guidance for melons, tomatoes and leafy greens in a process that is expected to lead to more formal regulation of those commodities. READ MORE >>

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    House Approves Food-Safety Bill: Law Would Greatly Expand FDA's Power The House approved the first major changes to food-safety laws in 70 years Thursday, giving sweeping new authority to the Food and Drug Administration to regulate the way food is grown, harvested and processed. READ MORE >>

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    ***USA - ACTION ALERT***

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    A note from Ronny and Pam - Rose Creek Farms
    We are facing a very important food and safety issue that may change the way we access and receive local food. The Food and Safety Bill of 2009 has passed the committee on the Senate floor and will soon be voted on by the full Senate. This is the last vote to take place before this becomes law. This bill does not protect the small farm from the full scale of FDA regulations. This bill does not do a good job in separating the small farm from the large scale farms. The food and safety issues we are experiencing in this country are from large scale farming, large scale food processing plants and imported foods. Small local farms growing livestock, produce and fruit, selling directly to the consumer are not part of these terrible problems. For more information on this issue. Please go to http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/index.html.


    I was told by a politician once that my "opinion or vote" had the weight of 13,000 "opinions or votes" when I take the time to write or call my politician. I pray this true! We need everyone to contact your representative quickly and tell them we want protection of our small local farms who sell directly to consumers to be excluded from the HACCP and FDA Regulations laid out in this bill. More specifically these items:

    *Exempt from the same fees applied to large scale growers.
    *Exempt farms selling direct to consumers from on-farm regulation.
    *Exempt food processors selling direct to consumers from HACCP.

    The number to the congressional switchboard in Washington is 202-224-3121. (This is the number where your voice will be heard the loudest). Ask to speak to Hutchinson's office and same with Cornyn. When someone answers ask for the staffer who handles the food safety issues. You can share with them your thoughts concerning these issues.

    Hutchinson local office number is Dallas: 214-361-3500. Cornyn local office number is Dallas 972-239-1310

    or send an email to

    http://cornyn.senate.gov/

    http://hutchison.senate.gov/

    Please foreward this letter to as many people as you can. Friends, family and co-workers. We really need to make an impact on these Senators and politicians in other states as well.
     

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