After patiently waiting for 7 months for birds I had purchased in December, I finally received my pair for this breeder in New York: They were supposed to be Ayam Cemani from a line that imported by the Smithsonian and carried on by this guy named Mike in New York. Being quite familiar with other FM breeds like Ayam Cemani, Ogye, and Svart Hona, I thought it might be a good idea to have another line for diversity. So I paid my $150 and waited for 7 months. What I received was not what was advertised. But all is not lost. I have decided to start a new breed. I am calling them "Smithies". The idea is to breed them and make a $5 Ayam Cemani-ish bird. If anyone wants to join in, I will be sending out eggs as soon as they are laying which should be in about 3 months. The goal of this breed are simple: 1. Keep the price low. $5 sounds good for a day old chick, straight-run of course. 2. Breed them as close to black as possible. They are supposed to be meat birds. 3. Increase the size which is always a good thing with meat birds. Please join me in this effort. Or just leave comments and suggestions.