This guy just does not match any breed in the book. HELP Please

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by 202roosterlane, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. 202roosterlane

    202roosterlane Happy Hen on a Harley

    Feb 24, 2011
    Central Arkansas
    I bought this guy at the Beebe Flea Market.

    What he is not and why ( I hope)


    Not a jungle fowl (colors and comb wrong)
    Not a black breasted because it does not have a pointed rose comb and white oh the head
    Not a Lemon Blue Old engish - wrong color legs, wrong comb, wrong tail feathers.
    Not a light brown Dutch bantam wrong comb, does not have white ear lobes



    I think this looks more like a welsummer BUT he does not have a single comb.

    The only other thing I can possible think is this is a red dorking. It has five toes. Greenish hue tail feathers a partial white feather on lower belly. I also think mine just happens to have a little more red hackle and sadlles feathers than the one shown in the book(Storey's Illustrated Guide to Poultry breeds) page 86.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK
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    Also did you notice it looked like someone cut his top beak. Why would they do this?
     
  2. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    They do it because he was raised in a very poor environment, likely crowded with many many other birds.


    Black Breasted Red is a color not a breed. He actually is a Black Breasted Red. [​IMG] You gotta consider, most poultry books miss out on one breed or another, or only state a certain breed being in a couple colors. He's very likely an American Gamefowl of sorts. Many do have pea combs, most are dubbed so you can't tell.
     
  3. clairabean

    clairabean Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 7, 2010
    Kootenays of BC!
    He is beautiful! Any ideas on where he came from before the flea market? Don't they cut the hens beaks in big hatcheries for fighting control? Maybe it broke off from fighting? Is he a meanie?

    I have a similar that I assumed was a welsummer. Sweetest, shyest roo.
     
  4. 202roosterlane

    202roosterlane Happy Hen on a Harley

    Feb 24, 2011
    Central Arkansas
    well the welsummer has a more pronouced single comb and does not have 5 toes. Does your rooster have toes like in these pic? I think mine in a bantam not a standard. I don't know. I hope someone more people can chime in [​IMG]
     
  5. 202roosterlane

    202roosterlane Happy Hen on a Harley

    Feb 24, 2011
    Central Arkansas
    I have no idea where he came from (other than Arkansas). I assume he is just a home grown fiesty roo. He did act like frilled dragon (neck feather spalled out like an umbrella) when confronting Big Red ( RIR rooster) through the chicken wire and begin to do the chest to fence bumping.
     
  6. EggNoob

    EggNoob Out Of The Brooder

    might be a mutt.. kinda looks like he has copper maran in him..
     
  7. 202roosterlane

    202roosterlane Happy Hen on a Harley

    Feb 24, 2011
    Central Arkansas
    Thanks I am still think Red Dorking because of the comb and 5th toe.
     
  8. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

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    I'm not seeing the fifth toe. Are you counting the spur as a toe, or am I just not seeing it?
     
  9. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    He doesn't have 5 toes. . . . Also, Dorkings are extremely meaty, short legged, round bodied birds with single combs. I still say he's either just a mutt or a Gamecock.
     
  10. magicpigeon

    magicpigeon Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 9, 2010
    I'm not seeing any 5th toe either [​IMG]
     

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