This keeps growing inside my chickens mouth & throat. . .

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by jgcalifornia, May 23, 2019.

  1. jgcalifornia

    jgcalifornia Songster

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    My Salmon faverolle has had this yellow like growth inside the side of her mouth. If I rub it off with a q-tip, the area bleeds for a bit and days later, it comes back.
    The pic here was a bit further down her throat. I was able to pull it off with a q-tip.
    It has a rubber like feel to it.

    Any ideas as to what this is?
    How she got it?
    How to get rid of it?

    Thanks in advance!
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  2. BarnhartChickens98

    BarnhartChickens98 Crowing

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    I believe it is a canker. @Eggcessive might know a treatment.
     
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  3. Eggcessive

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    Does it smell really bad? Many who have seen canker, say that it smells awful. Several things can affect inside the beak, such as canker, wet fowl pox, and I think they can get a yeast or candida infection as well. Canker is treated with metronidazole, also known as Fish Zole available online. Dosage is 250 mg given orally once a day for 5 days. Wet fowl pox is a virus, and there is no treatment, but it lasts several weeks. Do you have a picture of the beak before you removed the lesion? Here is an article or two to read about canker:
    http://www.chickenvet.co.uk/health-and-common-diseases/digestive-problems/index.aspx

    http://www.poultrydvm.com/condition/canker
     
  4. jgcalifornia

    jgcalifornia Songster

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    Thanks!!
    I actually found this article:
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/canker-sores.1186445/#post-18737809
    which had a link to this page: http://www.poultrydvm.com/condition/canker
    which I believe confirms your diagnosis. It describes it exactly and I believe the image on that page also indicates these are cankers.

    I've already purchased Acidified Copper Sulfate and Organic Thyme oil.

    Thanks for the help!
     
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  5. jgcalifornia

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    No smell.
    The one I removed and in the pic I posted was a bit further down in her throat. I will get a pic of the one inside the side of her mouth later today and post.
    Thanks for the help!
     
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  6. Eggcessive

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    A couple of other possibilities could be actinomyces or actinomycosis, which is a bacteria that can appear like a fungus in clumps. There also could be the ossibility of it being a fungus.

    Has it grown lately? Without the bad odor typically found in canker, I might hold off on Fish Zole for a bit.
     
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    I wouldn't say it's grown "lately". But if I push it off with a q-tip, it's a bit crazy how quickly it returns in the exact same spot.

    To be fair, I haven't put my nose up close to her beak to make a conclusive call on the smell. If it's so bad that I would be able to smell it when she's on my lap and up close, I can say there is no foul smell.

    Do you agree the Acidified Copper Sulfate and Organic Thyme oil are an appropriate start?
    Thanks!
     
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  8. dawg53

    dawg53 Humble

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    Have you been having any mosquito problems? Open her mouth and take a close whiff, if there's no foul odor, it's probably wet fowl pox. Lesions can form in the mouth, esophagus and trachea, pretty much like canker.
    If it's in the esophagus, birds can die of starvation. There is no treatment for wet pox as mentioned by Eggcessive.
     
  9. jgcalifornia

    jgcalifornia Songster

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    Mosquitos are always a problem here in Los Angeles.
    If it IS wet pox there must be something I can do. I can't just allow it to take her over & eventually die from.
     
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    If in fact it's wet fowl pox, you can remove the lesions and swab the mouth with iodine. There will be alot of blood but the iodine should prevent reinfection. You have to remove ALL lesions and if there are some in the trachea or down in the esophagus, there's nothing you can do. Lesions can also infect the crop, this also true for canker.
    The bad thing about canker is that birds are carriers for life once infected, not so with fowl pox. However, lesions are highly infective to other birds, particularly birds with dry pox. Birds can have both dry and wet pox at the same time. After it slowly passes through a flock, birds are immune to that particular strain for life.
    Birds with wet pox have about a 50% chance of surviving.
     

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