To Cull or Not to Cull (cochins and wyandottes)

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by BlueMottie, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. BlueMottie

    BlueMottie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have several three and four month old cockerels and pullets that I'm looking at, and trying to get an idea wether or not to keep. I know that I won't be getting rid of any of them until they are full grown and have shown their max potential, but I'd like to get a head start on opinions. I already have an idea of who I do and don't like, but I'd like to hear what some other breeders have to say as well-especially on the wyandottes as I am not nearly as familiar with the breed as I am with bantam cochins.

    All opinions are welcome, any input it appreciated [​IMG]

    *I'm going to be getting more shots of the birds and adding them tomorrow or monday.

    Cochins- Cockerels

    no. 1
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    This one I am pretty sure I'm not going to be keeping. He just isn't "full" enough for his age, in my opinion, but I hope his body type changes. Plus he is a little bit aggressive, which isn't necessarily a bad thing as far as vitality goes, but I already have one cocky rooster, and if this little dude doesn't have the quality to go with the attitude then he's out. (he's three months old)

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    I'm not sure how I feel on no. 2. He has nice tail carriage, but again his body type is narrower then I would like. His leg feathering is amazing though, but I wish his shanks had the nice, dusky coloring (no.1 does have this) and I think he's a bit leggy. I'm really hoping he'll explode into a ball of feathers within the next five months. he's got an OK disposition. Four months old.

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    As you can see, he has a slight twist in his comb which I'm hoping will straighten itself out in time-but his type is so nicely developing right now I might just keep him anyways. He is standing upright, so he has nice short little legs and a squat body type. I personally cannot tell when he's standing or when he's sitting. Right now he's my main choice, even though he is a bit pale on his legs and beak, but he's starting to get the lightly grey scales on his toes so that's good. 2 1/2 months old.

    Cochin pullets: I'm not really a fan of any of the pullets I have under four months. But time will tell.

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    A three and a half mo blue mot. She's ok, imo, but her undercolor is weak and her type isn't the greatest. Nice little bird though. Four months old.


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    I think out of the pullets I'm listing this is the one I'd keep, I wish she was older so I could see wether she'd become a more black bird or she'd become a way mottled bird. Three months old.

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    And I think this one will be a cull. I'm not liking the way that tail is coming in, but maybe with time it'll turn into a nicer cushion. I've noticed with my birds that the ones who develop almost no cushion early on have the best type later. She's also skiddish and a little turd. Three months old.

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    I like this pullet, but I think it's pretty bizarre that her baby feathers came in blue barred, some of which you can still see on her saddle. Her teen feathers are coming in a nice light blue though. Three months old.

    Wyandottes:
    Like I said, I don't have much breed experience with wyandottes, but the parent birds came from Dan Jerome and Maplewinds poultry. So the parents are nice atleast.
    I couldn't have asked for better gender percentages is I was a commercial producer-one cockerel to four pullets.

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    I couldn't get any of these little buggers to stand very well as they are all fairly skiddish, so I apologize for the pics where they look like they aren't behaving [​IMG]
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    3 months old

    Pullet no. 1
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    Three 1/2 months old

    Pullet no. 2
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    Pullet no. 3
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    I'll get more pics tomorrow. Thanks to anyone who looks [​IMG]

    -Mottie
     
  2. hcammack

    hcammack Overrun With Chickens

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    I would agree with your assement on the cochins. I like the last girl even if her color is weird. I really like the wyndottes they look good to me! I am not an expert in either breed infact I have never owned either! Hope to hatch a few blrw bantam pullets soon. Very pretty birds though Mottie!
     
  3. BlueMottie

    BlueMottie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks Henry! I'm interested to hear what some bantie wyandotte people will say. From what I've seen, they look alright, but I haven't the slightest idea as far as the fine-tuning breed features go.
     
  4. austinhart123

    austinhart123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    im sure whatever you decide to cull you could sell as good starter stock for someone interested in buying them
     
  5. CelticMoon1

    CelticMoon1 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Pullets no. 2 and 3 (Wyandottes) look like they carry their wings low? Or is that just 'cuz they weren't behaving? Other than that they still have a lot of filling out to do, and I wouldn't cull for type at this age. If I were to cull this early I would cull for comb and leg feathering, but yours look like they have correct combs and clean legs. (I know some people swear by breeding their single combs; I haven't had any pop up, and wouldn't breed them if I did).

    *waiting for the dottie experts to come by* [​IMG]
     
  6. BlueMottie

    BlueMottie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks for the input [​IMG]
    I might sell cochin boy no.2 if he doesn't go 'poof' to someone who wants to start out with cochins, but no. 1 is just not looking very useful in that category-but like celtic moon said, it's way too early to start officially culling. I'm waiting until they are at least eight or nine months old. As for the pullets, who knows. The girls seem to develop their full type faster then the boys as far as my birds go, and none of them are starting to show anything dynamic-yet [​IMG] But they might all be going.

    The 'dotte girls were acting up and had been flopping around when I was trying to catch them, which is why their wings are drooping and their feathers are kind of fluffed up. I'll go out there with my camera today and get some better pics.
     
  7. briarpatchfarms

    briarpatchfarms Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I really like the looks of the 2nd cockerel and the 1st and last pullet in the cochins! That last pullet looks rally nice for her age. If you decide not to use her... I got a cage open hint* hint* [​IMG]

    I dont know anything about wyandottes though!
     
  8. BlueMottie

    BlueMottie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Haha, maybe you'll end up with a few more chickens then, Briarpatch [​IMG] You're right, the blue mot at the end looks pretty nice, so I'll keep my eye on her, as long as the barring doesn't persist as she ages. As for boogerchild #2 (his sire and the first cockerel's sire are both Booger, my blue mottled cock) we'll see. still waiting for that explosion [​IMG]
     
  9. lockedhearts

    lockedhearts It's All About Chicken Math

    Apr 29, 2007
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    Cochins mature very very slowly. I have a LF Black Rooster that looked just awful all last year, sort of like a dinosaur with feathers and was just Gangly looking. He has finally matured and is gorgeous. I also had a SQ Bantam Mottled Roo, I personally did not like him as a young roo, took him to a show and was told by someone who has bred and shown Bantams for years that he was going to be really nice when he matured.
    I would keep them all until they mature and then make decisions.
     
  10. BlueMottie

    BlueMottie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I know, cochins are buggers when it comes to maturing. But generally the defects start showing up around this age, stubs, crooked combs, etc. I won't be getting rid of any of them until they are eight or nine months old at the youngest. Just looking for public opinions [​IMG]
     

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