Tolbunt polish

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by FeatheredObsessions, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. FeatheredObsessions

    FeatheredObsessions Songster

    May 24, 2010
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    I'm looking for tolbunt polish from a more established breeding program. Does anyone know of a good breeder/supplier?
     
  2. LarryPQ

    LarryPQ Easter Hatch!!

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    These are still really rare, and you will probably pay through the nose....but there are a few folks on here who gaurd them jealously.

    I found this a while back, but it is for Wyandottes.
    On request of several, below the recipe for creating Tollbunte Wyandottes

    Year 1: (red)mille fleur x gold laced, sex doesn’t matter because these patterns are autosomal, the same on both sexes. Amount of animals: see for yourself, they are all carrying motteled but the other genes are impure. Red mille fleur on Wyandottes is ‘random, which means its only the action of motteled which causes the flower (red, black, white). It’s possible they carry columbian, but that’s only usefull. The F1 will be impure of e-allele, because you are crossing wheaten (eWh) x Asiatic partridge (eb). Chickens will have different down, document this.

    Year 2: F1 (offspring year 1) cross to eachother (inbreeding), at the end of the Summer, select the ones with the best mottles, e.g. a cockerel and a pullet. Because of impurity of e-allele, the chicks will look different (pure wheatens, pure asiac partridges, mixes). The wheaten chicks will be yellow with a vague shade of red on the back, the asiatic partridges will have chipmunk stripes and the mixes vague stripes and some can have a black head spot (columbian).

    Attention: impure (Mo+/mo) mottleds can show mottling in their youth feathers, esp. the cockerels. Therefore wait till the end of the Summer, when they,ve moulted fully. After thourough moult the white feathertips may disappear. The amount of animals: quite some, statistically 50% carries mottled. In reality this can be zero out of ten chicks.

    Year 3: F1 from year 2 with mottling x gold laced. Offspring won’t be mottled, but does carry it. See Attention above.

    The other way in year 3: Inbreed F1 from year 2, this can result in a pretty nice single lace. This F2 has variable mottling. Sometimes you can create something Tollbunt. This F2 is mottled in a certain way, it can vary in intensity and distribution. Sometimes with a bit of selection its possible to have a Tollbunte but remind the basis is very narrow. You can breed two lines from the start and mix them at this point.

    Year 4: F1 from year 3, inbreeding, at the end of the Summer select birds with the best mottling and lacing. Technically, laced should be pure now as well as mottled. The Tollbunte Wyandotte could be a fact.

    PS.
    For the ground colour: in red millefleur there’s mahogany, this is persistent. When you want a golden ground colour, you’ve to breed a lot and cull hard, it will take some time before you can get rid of Mh. Another way is breed back to gold laced every time, and not selecting them sooner than the age of 1,5 years, when their hormons are in full blow. Hormons influence colour.​
     
  3. Nava

    Nava I Got The Naked Neck Blues

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    baregretchen is the woman you want to talk to look her up, you'll be glad you did [​IMG]
     
  4. FeatheredObsessions

    FeatheredObsessions Songster

    May 24, 2010
    Oregon
    Thank you.
     

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