Totally confused about Ivomec and how to use!!

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by kuntrygirl, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. kuntrygirl

    kuntrygirl Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

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    Ok, I have read so many posts until my head is hurting. [​IMG]

    Can someone please explain to me how to use Ivomec Eprinex Pour/Ivermectin/Ivomec Injection? [​IMG]

    I went to TSC and there were 2 different boxes. One box says that it is a pour on for cattle and swine and the other box says that it is an injection. But from what I have been reading, everyone uses this as a dewormer for chickens. Is this cattle and swine pour on/injection med the same Ivomec that everyone is using? This is the cattle dewormer right? And although it says "pour on", you can still mix it with water for chickens to drink right? And the Ivomec cattle and swine injection can be dispensed by needle and mixed in water for chickens so that they may drink it right?

    Sorry to sound like a 4th grader in math class but I want to be certain that I am on the right track. I don't want to kill my flock by using the wrong medication. If someone can confirm that I am on the right track or NOT on the right track, I would appreciate it.


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  2. Gypsy07

    Gypsy07 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have used Ivermectin on my chickens before. It was 0.8% solution in a 10ml bottle and the dose was two drops per bird on the skin at the back of the neck. I've also used some kind of Ivermectin pour on solution for treating scabby skin conditions in cattle. I'm not sure how strong that solution was but the dose was measured per 50 kilos of bodyweight (approximately) which worked out at 50mls for each cow. I'm not sure about injectable Ivermectin - never seen it and never used it. I would imagine that the pour-on stuff is totally different from the injectable stuff and the cow stuff is totally different from the chicken stuff - different concentrations I mean. I also wouldn't imagine it would be safe to dilute either of them in drinking water unless it specifically says on the label that it's safe to do so.

    If I were you I'd phone TSC and ask their advice.

    Btw did you know that you shouldn't eat the eggs for four weeks after your last application of Ivermectin? If I'd known that BEFORE my vet sloshed it all over my hens I'd probably have looked for something else to use cause it seemed like such a waste tossing all those eggs away...
     
  3. kuntrygirl

    kuntrygirl Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

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    Thanks for replying. I'm even more confused now. [​IMG] But it's not your fault. I have read many posts and people are saying to use Ivomec. Is there an Ivomec for chickens??????????? What is everyone talking about??????????

    Calling TSC for advice is like going outside and asking my sheep what to do. They are useless over there. All they have are "cashiers" who scan items with no knowledge of the items and how they work and what they are used for.

    I can't eat eggs for 4 weeks?????? I've been reading 2 weeks! [​IMG]

    I have purchased the Wazine and have read to follow up with Ivermectin about 2 weeks after.


    I'm so confused, I'll have round worms before I finally figure this out. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Thanks for replying. I appreciate that.
     
  4. Gypsy07

    Gypsy07 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I've had another look around for you, as now I'm wondering what's the difference too. I'm in the UK so some of the medicines will probably have different manufacturers or different brand names, but I found advice on a UK poultry forum that said there is NO egg withdrawal period for Ivomec Eprinex, whatever that is. Also named another wormer called Flubenvet, which also has NO egg withdrawal period. Also found a reference to Ivomec for sheep and cattle that said it can be either dropped onto your bird or dissolved in its drinking water, so that looks like my original answer to you was wrong!
     
  5. kuntrygirl

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    Quote:Oh great. Thank you for taking time to do more research for me. Everything that you have stated is exactly what I have read. And I have read this on many threads/posts. The no egg withdrawal period means that you do not have to toss your eggs like you did when the vet sloshed that med onto your chickens. I read that when this medicine is administered, eggs are still good to eat. You do not have to toss any eggs. This is a good thing. I had been looking for something online about the Ivomec being used in the chicken's drinking water but did not find it. I'm glad that you found a reference. I feel more comfortable now that you found something about this med.

    Thanks a bunch !
     
  6. mmaddie's mom

    mmaddie's mom Chillin' With My Peeps

    NO Ivermectin for chickens and they get kinda weird at the FS store when you tell them that you are using it for chickens... but yes, I use the pour-on for cattle... for a banty-size bird I use 2 (eye-dropper) drops, between the shoulder blades/back of neck area, DIRECTLY on the skin (not feathers)... for a standard size bird, use 4-5 drops... I repeat in 10-14 days... I don't eat the eggs for 2 weeks after each application (so 4 weeks total)... but have been told that it can be done (eating eggs).

    Don't know about putting it in their water... I would imagine that for a large flock this would be the way to go... but I have no dosage for you... for a small flock, if you don't mind handling everyone, I would use the above direct drop method.
     
  7. kuntrygirl

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    mmaddie's mom :

    NO Ivermectin for chickens and they get kinda weird at the FS store when you tell them that you are using it for chickens... but yes, I use the pour-on for cattle... for a banty-size bird I use 2 (eye-dropper) drops, between the shoulder blades/back of neck area, DIRECTLY on the skin (not feathers)... for a standard size bird, use 4-5 drops... I repeat in 10-14 days... I don't eat the eggs for 2 weeks after each application (so 4 weeks total)... but have been told that it can be done (eating eggs).

    Don't know about putting it in their water... I would imagine that for a large flock this would be the way to go... but I have no dosage for you... for a small flock, if you don't mind handling everyone, I would use the above direct drop method.

    Uh oh. So if you're putting it on chickens, what are you trying to kill??????? lice? mites? Can the pour on kill round worms INSIDE of the chicken. How does that work?????? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  8. mmaddie's mom

    mmaddie's mom Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Uh oh. So if you're putting it on chickens, what are you trying to kill??????? lice? mites? Can the pour on kill round worms INSIDE of the chicken. How does that work?????? [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Kills all of the above... it is systemic, meaning that it is absorbed and goes throughout the entire system, killing both external and internal parasites.... that's why you NEED to get it directly on the skin to be absorbed... it will just stay on the feathers otherwise. Hope this is clear.
     
  9. PunkinPeep

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    This cracks me up! And i'm sure is so true. I have never called TSC for advice about my chickens, but i'm still sure this is true.

    I'm following this thread also because i have been confused about the ivermectin pour-on, etc., and have never really read consistent information. And i don't really know where to find good information on this matter.
     
  10. mmaddie's mom

    mmaddie's mom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    This cracks me up! And i'm sure is so true. I have never called TSC for advice about my chickens, but i'm still sure this is true.

    When I bought my Iver @ a fs store, I ended up telling my sales person about how to use it for her birds... we ended up splitting the smallest size bottle they had and we both have PLENTY!
     

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