tube feeding

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  1. chicknmania

    chicknmania Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Hello. We have a three year old Golden Comet hen who has been ill. She has been reluctant to eat and for the past three days has eaten nothing, so we began tube feeding yesterday. My main concern is that she have fluids so we are giving her Buttermilk and yogurt diluted with water, which is all that I have on hand; but I planned to go and get her some baby bird formula. My concern is that every time we tube feed her (or handle her at all) she is totally exhausted afterwards and sleeps the rest of the day. We are not sure what is wrong, we have dewormed her with Valbazen (and we have the flock on a regular deworm schedule besides) and she is in the house in a hospital cage, but she does not seem to be improving at all. I'm just curious if anyone has actually had luck with tube feeding (honestly we have only tube fed one or two other birds in the past, but we never had any luck at all in reviving any this way) and, at what point should we expect to see improvement, if she is going to improve? I feel like we are torturing her. [​IMG] I was hoping that the buttermilk might help to soothe her gut, but nothing seems to be making any difference. I am just trying to figure out at what point it might be kinder to just have her euthanized, rather than continue to shove stuff down her throat day after day.

    Anyone?
     
  2. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Once her crop clears a little try plain water at 2-3 ml per 100 grams, repeat in 60-90 minutes, then once more in 2-4 hours. Water is the key, trust me on this. Forget yogurt, buttermilk, ACV, just give the water. Once hydrated she should start pooping lots of clear liquid, then you can mash up some chick crumbles and water in a blender and give that to her.
     
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    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    chicknmania Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    OK, thank you! Can you please translate 2- 3 ml per 100 grams? How many millileters/ cc's would that be per time? I already have the chick starter, which I offered to her damp, and she refused it, so hopefully this works! Thanks for the link, it is very useful. So we should warm the water, too, I'm guessing.
     
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  5. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Al food and water should be warmed to reduce the risk of regurgitation.

    How much does you bird weigh?
    Five pounds = 2272 grams, so the math looks like this:
    2272 x 0.02 = 45.44 ml
    or
    2272 x 0.03 = 68.16 ml

    Let me know how much she weighs and I'll re-calculate based on her weight.
     
  6. chicknmania

    chicknmania Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    She weighs 7 lbs.
     
  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    7 pounds = 3175 grams
    3175 x 0.02 = 63.5 ml
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    3175 x 0.03 = 95.25 ml

    so your hen should get 63.5 ml to 95.25 ml. This is the amount to give provided her crop is empty. Does that help?
     
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    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    oh, and that's the amount you give now, again in 60-90 minutes, and once more in 2-4 hours. Remember, only give if crop is empty or mostly empty.
     
  9. chicknmania

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    Oook...wow that sounds like a lot! But we will try. I'll let you know how it works.
     
  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    My 5.5 pound hens get no less than 60 ml.
     

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