Turken(NN) x Lf Polish ..... anyone try? or have pic?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by klf73, Jun 19, 2011.

  1. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    If anyone has these, or the ability to make these I would LOVE some....especially a LACED variety....hmmm, maybe if one of my tolbunts is a cockeral he can go with the one naked neck and I can try [​IMG] of course, who am I kidding? all 3 of my tolbunts will be cockerals, cuz that's my luck [​IMG]
    if anyone has done this and has pics I would LOVE to see them, pretty please?
     
  2. Hi! Not LF or laced, but I got some White Crested Black Polish bantams a few weeks ago and hope to cross them with some of my Naked Necks. I think they will be adorable.
    There are pics of crested frizzled NN on the NN thread that are from frizzle [Polish X (Naked Neck x Silkie)] --- too cute.
    I hope your Tolbunts are 2 girls and a boy. I got lucky with the WCB and have 4 girls and a boy. I've love to find some LF Silver Laced to work with.
    Good luck!
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    Lisa
     
  3. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    I just think the naken neck would accentuate the crest so much more....we'll see if the polish will be able to mount the naked neck when he reaches the right age(being optimistic of a trio here [​IMG] )
     
  4. Kev

    Kev Overrun With Chickens

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    It does accentuate the crest way more. Also gives a rounder looking shape.

    I don't have them any more, don't know if there's still non digital pics of them somewhere in storage...

    try to avoid using pea comb birds in this project, it can cause huge naked areas from the comb area going back towards the head knob and around it. Doesn't look good.

    Breeding them will be straightforward if the plan is essentially a polish with naked neck- simply repeat the best patterned bird with a naked neck with pure polish until you are happy with the type and pattern. I got very polish looking birds with full size crests in the second generation. I didn't breed back to pure polish, so the color was all wonky... was trying for polish in red duckwing and crele in this same project. Their crests looked way bigger than they really were when contrasted with the skinny bare necks- polish have skinny necks!
     
  5. Quote:Hi! Glad you mentioned that. I was planning on crossing out to NN green-eggers (for one cross) that are pea-ish combed.
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    Lisa
     
  6. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    Kev, since you showed yourself on my thread [​IMG] If I get a tolbult naked neck...what would I then get if crossed to a crele bird? would it be a big mess?
     
  7. Kev

    Kev Overrun With Chickens

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    Lisa, you can use pea combs for the initial cross especially het pea, but once you get to full size knobs plus pea, it gets ugly... If I still have a pic of this hen, will try to scan and show. Just to frighten the little ones and old folks...

    Krista, IIRC, barring plus mottle can make the bird really white, it may make an auto sexing color- males almost completely white, with hens strongly barred/mottled. Auto sexing because males can get 2 copies of barring(makes them lighter), add mottling on top of that, while females can only have one copy barring at most. If that's about correct, my guess for tolbunt plus barring would be mostly white males with spots of black/grey/gold and females similar to a cream legbar hen except with much more white.

    Mottle is recessive so a crele x tolbunt would give mostly crele looking birds without mottling(will be sex linked if it's a tolbunt roo over a crele hen). some birds may show a few white tips though... to get mottling back, would be much easier to take one of these cross birds with barring back to a tolbunt.

    As for barring on laced.. I have no idea, would be real curious as to what that looks like!

    p.s. are American tolbunt stock laced plus mottling or more like mixed patches of red, black and white? This color is confusing, in some countries or stocks they are obviously gold laced with mottling, while others they look 'mixed patches'.. I know the goal for tolbunt wyandottes usually are the former- clearly gold laced with mottling.
     
  8. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    well, I only have a shot of the head, probably not good enough to answer your question
    only about 9-10 weeks
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  9. Hi Krista, Colorful! Non-bearded(?) and I don't see wattles. Looks 'girl-y' to me.
    Hi Kev! If you find a pic, I'd love to see it. You know how it is --- the odder, the better.
    Gosh you are a wealth of information this evening for me.
    barring plus mottle can make the bird really white

    I've been hatching chicks the last couple weeks from a Brown Red Barred (Bb) Cochin roo x Brown Mottled (mille fleur-ish) Cochin girls and wasn't sure what to expect. Chicks are split-to-mottled and may or may not have inherited barring, but that could still effect coloring?
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    Lisa​
     
  10. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    it is bearded, just lightly.
    it's one I was thinking "pullet"

    can't take credit though....they came form greenfire [​IMG]
     
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