Ok breeder one KNEW I was after POL or close to POL hens. When I went I ended up with the only two I could take an he said that they would quieten down. A week on, a worm infestation and two very scared and flighty chickens..... Also the breeder has just admitted to me that one hen is over 2 years old and one is over 12 months. Not what I was wanting they also are digging really large holes and annoying the neighbours with their 6am wake up calls. So I went to this other breeder to get some layers for my dad. I ended up with 3 RIR x Isa Browns (who are at POL) and two silkies (14 weeks old who where just tooo fugly to not take). Well this lady was great, showed me around, showed me parents. Her RIRxIBs are so quiet they walked right up to me and let me pick them up. Her chickens where HALF the price and twice as nice. I settled the new girls in their pen for dad to pick up tomorrow (I am planning on keeping the silkies) and well my sister now wants dad to take home the Light Sussex so we can keep the new ones(take us to our 5 chicken max but I really don't care. I am annoyed at the first breeder and really loving the second. Wish I had found out about her before I hear about the first one. So looks like my flock is going to get a make over!