Two dead chickens in two days please help.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by southphoenixchick, Sep 16, 2010.

  1. southphoenixchick

    southphoenixchick Out Of The Brooder

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    We had a flock of six, lost one chicken an Americanna about two months ago with no signs of what happened to her. Only blue was her neck was loose with her whole body stiff thought her neck might be broken. This is our first flock so we decided after looking online that this was sudden chicken death syndrome. Now down to five hens we brought in two chicks that are in the run but in a seperate cage for their safety (our girls attacked them). They have been with the flock for about two weeks and appear healthy other than the injuries from being attacked by our hens. Those injuries are almost all gone now though. The flock consisted of 1 Plymouth rock, 1 dominique, 2 Rhode island reds, and 1 Wellsumer. The two chicks are Wellsummers. Last night we found the Wellsummer dead after having petted her and the others that very afternoon. She seemed fine. Tonight we found 1 of the Rhode islands dead. What can we do? We don't want to loose the whole flock since they have recently started laying very well. We were only getting an egg every other day and recently we'd been getting two to three eggs everyday. Please help.

    1) What type of bird , age and weight.

    (1 Wellsummer and 1 Rhode Island Red, no idea on the weight about 6 months old)


    2) What is the behavior, exactly.

    (Both dead one day apart. Few signs other than resting on the ground in the coop during the day periodically, then coming out to the run with the other girls, and back to the coop.)

    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

    (Showed signs for only one day before dying)

    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

    (Not yet)

    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

    (No injuries apparent)

    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

    (No clue)

    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

    (Grower crumble, water, and household scraps ie. pineapple, tomato, sweet potato, apple, lettuce, strawberries, cilantro, broccoli etc... )

    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

    (Normal as far as we can tell but it gets pretty lost in the dirt)

    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

    (Nothing but want to do something)

    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

    (Treat ourselves if possible.)

    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

    (Wooden coop with dirt floor, roosting bars that they almost never use, and a nesting box attached to the coop with a ledge that they prefer to roost on in the nesting boxes is a mixture of pine shavings and hay)
     
  2. ChickensAreSweet

    ChickensAreSweet Heavenly Grains for Hens

    How old are all your chickens?
     
  3. southphoenixchick

    southphoenixchick Out Of The Brooder

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    About six months old
     
  4. southphoenixchick

    southphoenixchick Out Of The Brooder

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    Don't know if this matters but my husband who took care of both dead chickens said that they both were dead with one leg out and one leg tucked up towards their body. Could this indicate anything?
     
  5. southphoenixchick

    southphoenixchick Out Of The Brooder

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    Should I get some antibiotics? I haven't got a clue. I'm not noticing any signs of disease but I'm so worried this is my first flock. We did give them sweet potato peel, but they weren't green at all they were very fresh. I read somewhere they can't have raw potato or sweet potato could this have cause the deaths and if so is there anything we can do to make sure no more die? We aren't giving them any scraps until we see if they survive but I feel so helpless. I know a vet but he's just a cat and dog vet I don't even know where I could take them and if I should take all of them or just one to be tested. I wanted to take the dead one in for a necropsy but I read that they had to be kept in the fridge and to be real honest with you that was a little more than I could stomach with all the food in there and a possibly diseased chicken shoved in too. I wanted to put her in an ice chest with ice but we figured it'd possibly freeze her and ruin the chances of a successful necropsy. I'm not even sure where we would have taken her anyway. I need to find out so if we have another one die tonight I know what to do.
     
  6. Glenbogel06

    Glenbogel06 Out Of The Brooder

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    You might want to try some vitamins for the chickens. Maybe some Poly-visol without iron. Yogurt too is good for the gut. Also I'd check out your remaining birds to make sure you don't have a bad mite infestation, since this seems to be the year for it. And are you sure that a weasel didn't get into the coop? I've never dealt with them, but have heard that they leave only very hard to find marks on the bodies.

    Sorry for your losses, and that I can't be of more help.
     
  7. Glenbogel06

    Glenbogel06 Out Of The Brooder

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    . . . also, I have heard that any potato peals are bad for chickens, so no more potato peals. My girls do love mashed potatos, and have never had a problem with that. I have heard on BYC about molasses flushes for things like botulism, so maybe if they were poisoned by the peals that would help. I think you just put some molasses in their drinking water, but I don't know the proportions.
     
  8. kcaywood

    kcaywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi there, I'm no expert but I am going through a challenge with my little flock (6 birds) since I stupidly added one last week who brought a respiratory illness with it. No one has died yet, but I have them on Tylan injections - doing the second round this morning. I gave the Typhoid Mary pullet an extra 1/2 cc before bed last night. If I were you, I'd give them a course of antibiotics - not Duramycin, which seems to do little, but Tylan or Denagard perhaps, in case what is causing the deaths is bacterial or protozoal. This might seem heavy handed, but I don't know what else to suggest. The sudden death seems to suggest coryza ... hopefully a more experienced person than I will weigh in soon. All the best to you - sorry you're going through this!
     
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  9. southphoenixchick

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    We had to dog proof the run and coop so I think it's pretty safe against any predators but as to the mites I'm not even sure how to tell. I pet them daily and the only thing I've noticed is that they have been getting small pebbles inbetween their feathers from their dust baths but I'm not really sure what I would notice other wise. Also only one of the remaining chickens will let me pet her. The other two used to occasionally but it could make it hard to check them real well until tonight. At night they put up with a lot more handling.
     
  10. southphoenixchick

    southphoenixchick Out Of The Brooder

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    kcaywood- thanks so much. The feed store nearby opens soon. I'm going to go down and get some Tylan if they have any. I figure it's a good chance they do. We even get the dog and puppy shots there so they have a good supply of med and other things. Do you know if we have to stop eating the eggs because of the Tylan? I saw some posts about that and we can I just don't know for how long though.
     

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