Two hens with swollen face and bubbly eyes

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Wild Chicken, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. Wild Chicken

    Wild Chicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have 2 hens that have a swollen face, only on one side, with a bubbly discharge from the eyes and a clear discharge from the nose that does not smell.

    One hen is 6 months old, the other hen I'm not sure....at least 2 years.

    We have them quarantined and I will be making a trip to TSC this afternoon for whatever is recommended by you guys.

    Of course I have been reading all of the nasty things this could be.....and I was leaning towards Coryza but there is no odor.

    THanks in advance!!

    ETA: there are no other symptoms, no sneezing, coughing, etc and both are eating and drinking. We did last week treat the whole flock for lice (dusted with poultry dust) and gapeworms. Could it be possible that the dusting has caused this?
     
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  2. Glenda L Heywood

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    it is eveident they have a respiratory disease ( some time called a cold which chicken can't get)
    I would do this immediately

    (1) if your store has aureomycin buy it and put in the water
    (2) you need Vetrx and it is used with the medication in the water 1 tsp per gallon of water
    1/2 tsp Vetrx down the throat
    1 drop in each eye to clear sinus's

    here is what to do if they do not have aureomycin
    you can buy duramycin till you get a stronger medication from a supply house

    and put two tsp of duramycin per gallon and vetrx also

    THEY DEFINETLY DO NEED SOME ANTIBIOTICS TO GET THEM OVER THE RESPIRATORY DISEASE

    also you didn't say if they had any blood in the droppings?

    this if so could be coccidiosis

    is the feed your giving them a new sack or has it been opened a long time?

    feed over a month old which the tag would have the milling date on it

    is generally lacking in vitamins

    also you could put Vetrex on the head of all the chickens sick and under the wings and 1/2 tsp down the throat
    and 1 tsp per gallon of water
    this is a herbal medication that does help with the repiratory disease

    you can get it from Smith poultry supply

    FOR you TO get this Vetrx


    HERE IS THEIR INFROMATION
    Smith Poultry & Game Bird Supply Home A family-owned business that offers poultry and game bird books, supplies, vitamins and medication. Located in Kansas, US.
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    Smith Poultry & Game Bird Supply

    14000 W. 215th St., Bucyrus, KS 66013-9519

    Ph. 913-879-2587 - 7:30 A. M. - 3 P. M CST Monday-Friday

    24-hour Fax. 913-533-2497

    WHILE WAITING FOR THE NEW MEDS DO THIS


    do this
    now the
    natural probiotic recipe is is:
    THIS IS FOR ONE CHICKEN
    IF FEEDING MORE CHICKENS MULTIPLY THE RECIPE TIMES AMT OF CHICKENS TREATED.
    3 tbsp of dry crumbles
    4 tbsp of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some
    1 tbsp of yoguart of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetmer)
    mix good
    AFTER PUTTING vIT'S IN
    PUT 1 TBSP OF APPLE SAUCE FOR THE WET MASH PROBIOTIC

    NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICKen FED
    and add 1- 400 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chickEN fed this wet mash
    putting it in the wet mash

    FOR each chickenNyour treating
    so for each chickEN use 2 tBsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E

    and feed each chicken
    2 tBsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
    then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles

    do this twice a day for a week
    then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic
    then once a week for life

    All the while after mdicating the birds use
    do not use ACV with medication

    2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated
    they should have this at least 3-5 days a week
    then three days aweek after they are over coccidiosis
    the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem
    take all the electrolytes out of the water

    ALSO AFTER THE MEDICATION IS DONE FEED THIS AGAIN as time listed

    email me any questions
     
  3. Wild Chicken

    Wild Chicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have sent you an email Glenda.....forgot one thing....while i'm waiting for the auromycin, our feed mill has sulmet, would that be appropriate or shouldn't I waste my time with that?
     
  4. Glenda L Heywood

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    if it is a cold then the sulmet is good to use

    as is the wet mash probiotic

    I would get on the sulmet immediately
    a note here
    put 1/2 pkg of raspberry jello in each gallon of sulmet water
    this helps the taste and they will get on it

    also add to the wet mash probiotic

    recipe
    for several hens
    1 qt of dry feed crumbles
    2 qts of water
    2 tsps of sulmet
    add just water
    instead of milk and yoguart

    then for one chicken wet mash
    3 tbsp of dry crumbles
    6 tbsp of water
    add 3/4 tsp of sulmet every morning for two mornings
    as well as put it in the water for only water to drink

    as this will get the sulmet into their gut immediately
    most chickens like wet mash

    and the milk products shouldn't be added when adding the sulmet
    email me any questions
     
  5. Wild Chicken

    Wild Chicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks Glenda....you are such a life saver!! [​IMG]

    What do you think I am battling? Did I bring it on from all the dusting for lice last week?

    God Bless you!! [​IMG]

    Amy
     
  6. Glenda L Heywood

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    Hello
    well I hope the medication works
    as I told you go get the sulmet asap


    I would use the wet mash probiotic with two vit's
    3 tbsp of dry feed crumbles
    4 tbsp of milk
    1 tbsp of yoguart
    mix well
    add 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting end of capsule and squeezing it on the wet mash
    one Vit B complex crushed and added to wet mash
    now mix good and top with large tbsp of apple sauce
    multiply this by the amt of chickens fed it

    so give it a try and use the recipe for individual chicken and times it times the amt of chickens fed it

    as they are isolated the chickens need this help

    most chickens will eat it readily and go for the wet mash and the probiotic is the milk and yoguart



    I am very strong on the porbiotic wet mash
    it does a lot of good moisture wise for the bird

    the wet mash is very good for added moisture in the chickens body at this time they may have a fever also.
    email me any questions
     
  7. Glenda L Heywood

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    no I believe it is a respiratory disease
    it is gotten from wild birds drinking and eating from the chicken waterers and feeders
    saliva with disease germs are there left on the feed and in the water so the chickens pick it up

    no the dusting is not harmful it just happened at this time

    keep using the vetrx
    twice a day
    it is very important for the birds sinus's
    so put drops in twice a day and give 1/2 tsp twice a day and rub head and under the wings with it good
    I would add 1 tsp of vetrx with the medication in the water

    it is herbal and not effecting the medication any

    the birds ability to clear the sinus cavity is helped by the vetrx

    keep me posted
    any questions email me
     
  8. Wild Chicken

    Wild Chicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks again [​IMG] .......this make a LOT of sense now Glenda as our chickens LOVE to get up onto the wild bird bath and drink the water [​IMG] I also have various "buckets" of water outside around the yard that are changed daily, as the chickens free range during the day and will drink the water from those, rather than going back to the coop for water.

    Should I stop this??? And what about the rest of my flock? Should I treat as needed, or as a preventative for the rest?

    Thanks [​IMG]
     
  9. Glenda L Heywood

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    aT least while treating do away with the outside water
    it will not hurt them to come to the chicken house
    They need just water with 2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of water
    this will help their gut flora

    I never had out side waterers due to the wild birds coming
    I would quit this for the winter months now

    and yes I would treat all the chickens for the 5 days I think it is
    or what ever the pkg of medication says
    and yes I would feed them the probiotics with wet mash
    once a day
    doctor the two sick one with the vit's seperately while they are sick

    any thing else email me
     
  10. Wild Chicken

    Wild Chicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Got it!! That's what my husband just said.....put the outside waterers AWAY!!

    I am getting Sulmet tomorrow from the feed mill and am ordering the other tonight online!!

    I have my work cut out for me tomorrow!!

    I hope I don't lose Mimi...she's the one in the worst condition!!

    Thanks [​IMG]
     

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