Tylan and penicillin for bubbles in the eyes

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  1. ironsfamilyfarm

    ironsfamilyfarm Out Of The Brooder

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    Hello all! I just have some questions that I would like to ask the brilliant minds on this forum. I have learned so much here and than all who participate.

    I have several chickens who have one by one gotten those little bubbles in their eyes along with tearing and some swelling. I have been thinking it was due to a respiratory infection. Would Tylan 50 be the best thing to use? Someone at my feed store said to inject 1cc Tylan 50 and 1cc penicillin for 3 days to clear this up. Does that sound right to you all? My next question is, if giving tylan, is 3 days the recommended length of time to administer? If there isn't improvement in 3 days, can it be given longer or should another medicine be used?

    Thanks so much.
     
  2. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    I don't like getting my advice at a feed store. I'd rather get advice here.

    I would not be giving them both meds at the same time. I know with Penicillin the dose is 0.5 ml, not 1 ml. I don't know the dose of Tylan injectable. The Pen I normally give one shot a day for 5 days.

    I'm sure someonne will get on here and give you the right dose for Tylan.
     
  3. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict

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    The symptoms sound like mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG, CRD) which would be best treated with Tylan 50. Tylan 50 contains 50mg per ml. Dosage is 0.1-0.2 ml per pound of weight, given for 3 days in a row, but not more than 5 days. Inject the 22 gauge needle into the breast muscle 1/4 inch.

    Procaine Penicillin G is more for wound infections or bumblefoo., Dosage is variable, depending on what source you read, but 1 ml is sufficient for a 100 lb animal. I usually recommend 1/4 ml, but many use 1/2 ml. It should be given with a 20 gauge needle 4 days in a row. There are other penicillins that are only given every 3 or 3 days, but I don't know much about those. Here is a good link to read about penicillin: http://thechickenchick.wordpress.co...llin-for-wound-care-in-poultry-and-waterfowl/
     
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  4. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    Pen G is a very good antibiotic for respiratory ailments. But like Egg says , Tylan is what is most recommended. It depends on what you have available.
     
  5. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict

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    Unfortunately many bacteria have developed resistance to penicillin. Some improved relatives like amoxicillin are also becoming the same. Bacteria are constantly becoming resistant to antibiotics due to their overuse. That's why it's best to only use them if you have a good idea what you are treating, since they won't help if the problem is a virus. But I do think the OP is probably dealing with MG. Testing is always a good thing to make sure.
     
  6. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    How big are they? If they were mine I would use Baytril, but Baytril is banned for use in food animals, so best to look into that first.

    Baytril sources:
    http://www.allbirdproducts.com/newproductpages/baytril.html
    http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/product_baytril.php
    http://www.mexi-cali.net/eng/index/item/24/29/enfloxil-25-ml-same-as-baytril

    Info on the ban:
    http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/RecallsWithdrawals/ucm042004.htm

    -Kathy
     
  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    You should note that I've had just one here with a respiratory infection, a young peachick. He was treated with Baytril 10% at 0.09ml per pound and made a full recovery after four shots. He has not been sick since then, nor have any of the others he was with.

    Definitely have not had much experience in treating this type of infection!

    -Kathy
     
  8. ironsfamilyfarm

    ironsfamilyfarm Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks everyone for your input. Where can bayril be purchased? Sounds like having some on hand would be a good idea. For now I will use the Tylan 50. If that doesn't seem to knock it out, then should I move on to the baytril? How many days would you think it should be given?
     
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    Baytril sources:
    http://www.allbirdproducts.com/newproductpages/baytril.html
    http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/product_baytril.php
    http://www.mexi-cali.net/eng/index/item/24/29/enfloxil-25-ml-same-as-baytril

    Info on the ban:
    http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/RecallsWithdrawals/ucm042004.htm

    -Kathy
     
  10. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    Would that mean that chickens can be resistant to penicillin even if they've never used it? Or after having used it several times?
     

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