unknown peeps, now pullets/cockerels PLEASE help me I.D.!

[meeerylou]

Please give me your best guesses as to what peeps I have! The 2 largest appear to be Americanas but the coloring is NOT in the Americana Standard, so I need to know what color to list when I show them at the fair:<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/?action=view&amp;current=May2011013.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/May2011013.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/?action=view&amp;current=May2011015.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/May2011015.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
The white one is a silkie but IDK if it's a cockerel or hen pullet <a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/?action=view&amp;current=May2011003.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/May2011003.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
The 3 bantams appear to be one cockerel (old english??) and pullet (o eng?) and a brown and black sebrite, but I've never seen a brown with black; is it a dark golden sebrite pullet??<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/?action=view&amp;current=May2011009.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/May2011009.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/?action=view&amp;current=May2011012.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/May2011012.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/?action=view&amp;current=May2011008.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/meeerylou/May2011008.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
THANKS 4 any HELP in ID!
~meeerylou

 

[meeerylou]

Hmm... my pix didn't post: again, the 2 big ones are most likely Americanas but idk what the colors are called according to standard:

the white silkie (pullet or cockerell??):

the bantams: is the brown and black a sebrite? if so is it a dark "golden sebrite" or what?-

the other 2 bantams appear to be old english, a cockerell and a pullet:

I am not familiar with colors/types of chickens and we bought these as day-old peeps in April.
We are planning on our 4-H club members entering them in the fair, and NEED any INFO. on types, gender.
Thanks!
Meeerylou

 

[Minniechickmama]

The first two are not Ameraucanas, they are Easter Eggers. Often people confuse the name. These are mutt chickens.
The Black and White one is a cockerel. The second is a pullet.
The Silkie, it is hard to say. With Silkies until they crow or lay, it is difficult to tell
The next one is a Golden Sebright. That is the color (aka variety).
The next is a Old English Game cockerel, not sure if you would call it Brown Breasted Red or not.
The last one is a OEG pullet.

 

[meeerylou]

Thank U Minnie!! The Americana Standard didn't list any colors like these 2, so u must be correct that they are mutts (easter eggers)!

I hope they bantams are good enough to enter at the fair. Old English it is, then!!!! And a golden sebrite!
Thanks alot!! That was a very quick reply!!! It's so good to know I can come here for answers and get them so quickly!
~Meee

 

[Minniechickmama]

The green legs are a dead give away on most Easter Eggers. After you have looked at enough of them, you start picking up on the common colors, not that any have a real color that you can give a label to.
I am not into the OEGs so you would have to look into those ones more. The sebright is a pullet by the way.

Of you want to see some good examples of any breed, you can go to a site called www.feathersite.com. They have everything!

 

[meeerylou]

what color legs do authentic Ameraucanas have?
the one brown pullet has very dark legs, the other has a lighter "green" hue to it's legs. The pix don't show the subtle differences so much.

 

[Minniechickmama]

True Ameraucana come in some different varieties, so it would depend on the variety. I have some Blues (BBS=Blue, Black, Splash that due the the Blue gene produces Black, Blue and Splash colored offspring). I just check my SOP and all Ameraucanas should have slate colored legs, and most of them have white on the bottoms of their feet.
I was wondering if at your fair you are able to show just individual birds. At ours they have to be in a breeding pen which consists of 2 pullets and a cockerel of the same breed/variety, hatched after January 1st of the year shown. This could be because we are a small fair.

With the Easter Eggers, usually they will have green legs. Not always. They can look like anything with any type comb, any colors, any shape, with or without beards, etc.

 

[Nicole01]

Both your EE's are cockerels. Look at their combs. Beautiful birds!

 

[meeerylou]

I don't believe our fair has the same restrictions; matching 2 pullets with a cockerel. Thanks for both of your help!
So, both EE's may be cockerels?? Well, I was thinking I might get some blue eggs, but that is out of the question if so!! The dark brown w/black's legs are so dark it is hard for me to tell if they're "green" or "dark gray" (slate), but the flash must have exposed some green in the photo. The White w/black definitely has green legs, though.

Again, thank you, Minnie and Nicole, for your help!

If I have any more questions, I hope you will be here, again, to help.
~Meeery

 

[akcountrygrrl]

I have to agree both of the EEs look to be cockerels. Not only do they have very prominent combs but the way the white is coming in over the shoulders of the first one and the way the red is darkening over the shoulders on the second are rooster characteristics.

No clue on the Silkie gender at this point but if it helps its color variety is white.

The gold Sebright looks to be a pullet.

Your OEG cockerel would be a BBR or black breasted red

The OEG pullet looks like it could be a gold duckwing or BBR. I'd have to pull out my standard to really compare them.

As for showing in 4-H... Different districts and fairs have different rules. At our fair, poultry has to be at least 4 months old. The EEs could show in the barnyard cross division and all of the others would show in the purebred division. Normally, bantams are broken down into classes - Old English Game, Modern Game, Single Comb Clean Legged, Feather Legged, Rose Comb Clean Legged, Any Other Comb Clean Legged. Then each of the classes is broken down into breeds, further broken down by variety, and then age/sex (Rooster=male over 1 year, hen=female over 1 year, cockerel=male under 1 year, and pullet=female under 1 year). So, your Sebright would be entered in Rose Comb Clean Legged, Sebright, Golden, Pullet. It's very important for you kids to know as much about their birds as possible since they will probably be expected to show in a Showmanship class. This class will be based on handling and knowledge of the bird (or poultry in general). The older the kids are the more they are expected to know.