So I did what "17 roses" wrote she does when she is ready to "throw in the towel" I candled three eggs, cracked them open, and saw no movement. One was just the yoke with a bit of blood and goo. One was feathers, but no movement. (I didn't open them entirely) And one was a foot, but no movement. I hope I never have to do that again. That was heart breaking. I have 18 egg in the bator, I am not going to open anymore. I think I got the idea. I will bury them today. Sad and dissapointing first experience.