*update* so kind yet thoughtless, but thanks!

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by LizaBlue, May 9, 2011.

  1. LizaBlue

    LizaBlue Chillin' With My Peeps

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    First time chicken owner, our 16 babies (barred rocks & australorps) will be one month old Tuesday, and we have one mopey chick but all the rest are perfectly healthy and growing like crazy. Today, my inlaws showed up with 6 newly hatched guineas and 3 turkeys of unknown age (up to a week?) as a surprise birthday present for me. Thanks! We had discussed getting some of those last year...and decided probably not...but, um, thanks! To make matters more frustrating, they dumped all of their presents in the pen with my chicks when I was inside - so much for quarantine - and the turkeys look half dead. In fact, mom-in-law kept saying one of them was dead, and furthermore, there had been another one that had died before they got them to me. JOY. [​IMG]
    On the upside, because of Mopey-chick, all the chicks have been on Sulmet for the last 5 days and I have plenty for the new birds. Also, the new birds seem to have adopted Mopey as their mom. In the case of the guineas this is cute: 6 lil cotton ball size squeakers following around my runt, trying to get under her and eat food from her mouth. However, when the turkeys need mom time it is freaking hilarious because the are almost bigger than her. My dog barked and scared one and it lunged under Mopey - only its head and neck made it. Mopey was not amused.

    The turkeys are so lethargic they make mopey look positively spastic, and we've thought she was almost in a coma for the last week. Worse, 2 of them don't seem to be able to breathe through their nose. When I dropper fed them water, they blew bubbles, so I watched them and saw when they slept they kept opening their mouths to breathe. One has some suspiciously orangey-brown poo, too close to bloody for my comfort. I don't think they have eaten a thing, not even the egg yolk super mix. Couldn't get any details from family about where they got them except the man "has anything you could want" or how long they had them. We're pretty sure they had them at least a day, but they didn't know if the chicks could drink, eat, or they needed heat, and they live in a tiny trailer where they chain smoke. The guineas, aside from ear-piercing squeaks on a fairly regular basis, seem frisky enough: interested in everything, eating, drinking, annoying the other birds, and pooping like crazy.

    I am grateful for inlaws who think enough of us to remember things we say we want, go out of their way to get them, drive hours to bring them to us, but I wish I'd had the opportunity to be prepared for this - we don't even have a coop ready for our 16 babies! [​IMG]
     
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  2. KlaHaYa Gardens

    KlaHaYa Gardens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sounds like an opportunity to show your graciousness and to gently educate.

    Perhaps you can "invite" the in-laws to keep the guineas in a brooder at their home until they are old enough to be in your pen.

    I do hope you enjoy them anyway -- especially the guineas.
     
  3. wingsofglory

    wingsofglory Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Did the inlaws go home? This is just me - but I would ditch the sick turkey poults and find some local replacements from a healthier place, quick. Even by mail from a hatchery, they'll be arriving in 2 or 3 days. Don't tell the inlaws. The inlaws will never know the difference. Get the same kind and they all look alike, much more than chickens.

    Respitory diseases - the bird can recover and be a carrier. I've also read here, birds (if your chickens catch it) and recover, it can have long lasting effects by affecting laying ability to stop or be less than normal.

    Why endanger all your hard work in your chicks???

    If you decide to keep them: a trick I learned from my Vet who worked on a big turkey/chicken research project: give them drops of cod liver oil. My nearly-full grown eleven turkeys got colds and he had me give each two tablespoons of cod liver oil every day for a week. My BF had to wrap his arms around them while I dished it out. A lot of it got shaken onto me!! But it DID WORK!!! The project he worked on found this out and he went into all the scientific reasons and etc.
     
  4. Thegrayeyedgirl

    Thegrayeyedgirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hmm... maybe they like mopey because she seems much calmer than the other chicks? [​IMG] The illness issue in the turkeys is concerning. However, it is so cute how you describe them adopting mopey as their "mommy." [​IMG]
     
  5. LizaBlue

    LizaBlue Chillin' With My Peeps

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    [​IMG] Mopey died at 1:30 am. She started breathing through her mouth like the turkeys and I could hear her from 2ft away. Although she might have cought something from them in the 12 hrs she was with them, facts are she has been lethargic, barely moving for nearly 10 days, despite Sulmet for the last 5 and special diet/treatment for longer. She suddenly became mucousy, I massaged her chest, she sneezed, hacked, and within 20 minutes, began convulsing with fluid draining from mouth. We've now seperated the guineas from the turkeys (despite their loud protests!) and hubbie is at the Walmart looking for PolyViSol, Cod Liver Oil, beef cat food, and all other home remedies/health tonics we've found online.

    Does anyone know if you can mix Sulmet with Save-a-Chik?
     
  6. ginger c.

    ginger c. Chillin' With My Peeps

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    so sorry to hear about Mopey, i'd get those sick turkys as far away from the other chicks as possible!!!!
     
  7. LizaBlue

    LizaBlue Chillin' With My Peeps

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    We immediately seperated the turkeys and put the guineas in a clean brooder bin with a new waterer, food bowl, and snugglies (old sweatpant scraps, stuffed toys). I thought they would NEVER shut up last night. Oh wait, they didn't! 5:30 this morning they were still complaining about losing all their companions. Gads. Nothing wrong with their lungs. Everybody is still getting Sulmet, and we started turkeys on PolyViSol last night. Hubby tried giving them some codliver oil this am, and in my sleepstupor I gathered that did not go well. I'm scared to check on them this morning and I've been up an hour researching online. I have a call in to the company that makes Sav-a-Chick to find out if it can be mixed with Sulmet. My flock is so small they barely drink 2qts of water a day, no way I can get them to drink a gallon and a half. Sulmet is supposed to be made fresh daily and the Sav-a-chick comes in a gallon mix, so if I could combine them it would help.

    Wish me luck, I have to go see how many living animals I still have.............[​IMG]
     
  8. TheHalfWayCoop

    TheHalfWayCoop Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Holy cow!! What a day you've had [​IMG] I'm so sorry about Mopey, that is so sad! Hope you can make the mix and preserve all your hard chicky work and to find all your guys up and running today. Good luck!!!
     
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  9. terrilhb

    terrilhb Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am so sorry about your Mopey. You have had a rough time. I pray it gets better for you. Sending lots of hugs. [​IMG]
     
  10. LizaBlue

    LizaBlue Chillin' With My Peeps

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    thanks for the love. spent some time with my happy-healthies first and fed them some shredded cat food as a treat. I love when they get down to just gravy on my fingers and start hoovering it up, so funny! that gave me some courage to check on the newbies. Guineas are much calmer, hope that is good. did I mention they didn't shut up until 5:30 this morning? at this point I'm too worn out to be concerned that they've been quiet and sleepy since I woke up, praying they just wore themselves out last night and not sick too.

    Well, the turkeys are still alive...barely. I was excited because they seemed ready to stir when I peeked in on them, but opening their eyes and half raising their heads was as good as it got. Mixed some codliver oil with orange jello, PolyViSol with Sulmet water, and grabbed a little of the egg mix and tried to doctor them. Between the 3 of them, I don't think all they took in would have filled a 1/4 tsp. [​IMG] Just not gonna fret it anymore. they'll either live or die, I'll do my best, God will do the rest.

    Thanks for the advice and support [​IMG]
     

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