USING DE FOR CHICKENS WITH FEED AND DUST BATHING SAFE AND HEALTHY

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  1. Glenda Heywoodo

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  2. Glenda Heywoodo

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    FROM BYC INFORMATION ON MILK FLUSH FOR CHICKENS

    Jewel Farm posted
    So many people have issues and ask questions about coccidiosis that I thought I would post this milk flush treatment that I cam across. This is a treatment that a college agricultural dept. came up with. You can break it down into a smaller portion but this is as it was listed.

    4 pounds of dried milk
    2 pounds of corn meal
    2 pounds of oatmeal
    1 pound of bran

    Feed this for 3-5 days with no other feed except some greens. The large amount of milk makes the chicks thirsty, causing them to drink. The milk sugar will turn to acid in the stomach and the extra added water will flush out the system.

    Maybe this will help some of you that has a hard time finding the corid/amprol in your area.

    Lavender Orpington Project, Standard Buff Laced Polish, Black and Lavender bantam cochins

    Cmom said From: http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/coccidiosis.pdf

    Natural Treatments
    Keeping birds in general good health is
    always important. Some small producers
    provide raw milk, yogurt, apple cider
    vinegar, or probiotics to birds, believing
    that beneficial microbes will prevent or
    treat coccidiosis. Actually, coccidia do not
    compete with bacteria in the gut; therefore,
    beneficial bacteria and other microbes
    will not eliminate coccidial development.
    However, anything that improves the overall
    health of the gut and the bird can help
    reduce the impact of coccidiosis. Also, a
    population of beneficial bacteria is always
    better than pathogenic bacteria, since coccidia
    weaken the gut wall, and bacteria may
    pass through. In short, feeding dairy products
    or probiotics will not stop the coccidia
    through competitive exclusion but does
    provide nutrients or beneficial bacteria that
    are useful in any situation.
    Producers sometimes give diatomaceous
    earth (DE) to the birds in the belief that the
    sharp edges of the fossilized diatoms will
    damage the parasites and reduce coccidiosis;
    however, there is no scientific data to
    support its use.

    Drugs
    Drugs are used for two different purposes:
    To prevent illness
    To treat illness
    Although a producer may depend on management
    for coccidiosis control, a drug such
    as amprolium is useful for rescue treatment
    in the case of an outbreak. There is no
    need to destroy infected birds; they can be
    treated. In large houses, it is necessary to
    routinely use drugs or vaccines because of
    the high density of birds.
    Types of Drugs
    Sulfa drugs: An exciting discovery
    in the 1930s was that sulfa drugs
    would prevent coccidiosisthe first
    drugs shown to do so. Sulfa drugs
    also have some antibacterial action.
    However, a relatively large amount
    of sulfa was needed (10-20 percent
    of the diet) and could be tolerated
    by the bird for only a short time,
    since it caused rickets. (Reid, 1990)
    Sulfa drugs had to be used intermittently
    (e.g., three days on and three
    days off). Nowadays, comparatively
    small amounts of sulfamonaides,
    such as sulfaquinoxaline, are
    used. They work only against
    Eimeria acervulina and Eimeria
    maxima, not against Eimeria
    tenella. Sulfamonaides are used to
    treat coccidiosis.
    Amprolium: Amprolium is an anticoccidial
    drug. It has also been
    used for many years and needs no
    withdrawal time to guard against
    residue in the meat. It is given in
    the drinking water and interferes
    with metabolism of the vitamin thiamin
    (vitamin B1) in coccidia. Amprolium
    treats both intestinal and
    cecal coccidia.

    Glenda Heywood posted
    this came up when I went on
    BYCsearch and put in
    posts on coccidiosis

    I never had known this

    the flush part must be the reaction of the milk in the gut of the chickens

    thus is why I tell folks when having a chicken
    that needs help especially gut problems
    and any thing with manure problems to feed the wet mash probiotics
    that I have used so many times

    1 qt of dry feed crumbles
    1-1/2 qt of any kind of milk
    sour milk works good as it is more acidy than sweet
    1/2 cup of yoguart
    mix good and feed
    chicks 2 tsp per time
    adults 3 tbsp per time
    very healthy for chickens

    Elmo said Quote:
    Originally Posted by Glenda L Heywood
    the flush part must be the reaction of the milk in the gut of the chickens

    Yes, chickens like other birds lack the enzymes necessary to digest lactose, so milk in any significant quantity gives them the runs.

    Interestingly, lactose gets converted to a different, digestible form in yogurt and cheese, so these products aren't a problem for chickens.
    http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/dairy.html


    Jerseychickens said I just had to purchase Amprol and I found it on First Vet supply. This is an online store. It runs about $16.00 liquid bottle.

    cowcreekgeek said Cmom your scientific info was good

    Good information, save for the fact that there is scientific evidence that supports the use of DE in the treatment of coccidiosis ...

    Effect of diatomaceous earth on parasite load, egg production, and egg quality of free-range organic laying hens.

    Abstract

    The effectiveness of diatomaceous earth (DE) as a treatment against parasites and to increase feed efficiency and egg production of organically raised free-range layer hens was evaluated in 2 breeds of commercial egg layers [Bovan Brown (BB) and Lowmann Brown (LB)] that differ in their resistance to internal parasitic infections. Half the hens of each breed were fed diets supplemented with DE (2%). Their internal parasite loads were assessed by biweekly fecal egg counts (FEC) and by postmortem examination of the gastrointestinal tract. Supplementing DE in diets of LB hens, the more parasite-resistant breed, did not significantly affect their FEC and adult parasite load. However, BB hens treated with dietary DE had significantly lower Capillaria FEC, slightly lower Eimeria FEC, fewer birds infected with Heterakis, and significantly lower Heterakis worm burden than control BB hens. Both BB and LB hens fed the diet containing DE were significantly heavier, laid more eggs, and consumed more feed than hens fed the control diet, but feed efficiency did not differ between the 2 dietary treatments. Additionally, BB hens consuming the DE diet laid larger eggs containing more albumen and yolk than hens consuming the control diet. In a subsequent experiment, the effectiveness of DE to treat a Northern fowl mite (Ornithonyssus sylviarum) infestation was tested. Relative to controls, both breeds of hens that were dusted with DE had reduced number of mites. The results of this study indicate the DE has the potential to be an effective treatment to help control parasites and improve production of organically raised, free-range layer hens.
     

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