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Using Wazine along with 5% Ivermectine?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by TexasHeifer, Aug 26, 2014.

  1. TexasHeifer

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    I'm planning on worming my hens with Wazine soon and in the past have always used just Wazine and called it a day. I've been reading around in the forums and several people are reworming their flocks a few days later after using Wazine with other wormers. It seems a lot of people are following with the 5% Ivermectine (the pour on type). Is this necessary? Have I been doing it wrong all this time? Most of the things I've read act like Wazine only kills the adult roundworms and Ivermectine kills the babies/eggs. Is this true? On another note, how many of yall still eat the eggs after using Wazine?
     
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  2. dawg53

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    I dont recommend wazine or ivermectin. You'd be better off using Safeguard liquid goat wormer or Valbazen liquid cattle/sheep wormer. Both are very effective broad spectrum wormers. Wormers can kill certain stages of larva, but none kill eggs that I know of.
     
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  3. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    I agree. But I do like Wazine in between because roundworms are prevalent. Safeguard liquid is great.
     
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    Quote: How do you know the birds drink it or drink enough of it to be effective?
     
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    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    Good point. But isn't that the same with all the meds that are added to a gallon of water?
     
  6. TexasHeifer

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    Whenever I've used it and when my parents and grandparents used it we would take the water away from the flock late in the evening before they roosted and put the solution out early the next morning. They twice as thirsty the next morning so they tank up on it. We usually used Wazine in the hot summer since they would be drinking more anyway. When it's 100 + degrees a flock of 10 birds give or take usually had no problem polishing off the gallon mixture. But you are right Dawg, there really is no fool proof guarantee that each bird will get the amount they need. I usually worm them again about 9 or 10 days later for insurance.
     
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  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    FYI, to the bet of my knowledge, the pour on invermectin is *not* 5%, it's 0.05% (5mg/ml).

    5mg/ml = .05%
    10mg/ml = 1%
    50mg/ml = 5%
    100mg/ml = 10%
    200mg/ml = 20%

    And so on...

    Studies show ivermectin as an ineffective wormer in poultry, so I wouldn't bother using it.

    -Kathy
     
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  8. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Yes it is, which is why the only one I use is Corid. :D

    -Kathy
     
  9. TexasHeifer

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    Corid(amprolium) 20%? The cattle wormer powder that comes in the bag right? Isn't that put in water to?
     
  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Both Corid 20% powder and Corid 9.6% solution are coccidiostats and are used in water. It's the only med I put in the water, and being as OCD as I am, I also give it orally just in case they aren't drinking. :D I use the liquid, so the oral dose is easy... 0.02ml per 100 grams is what I give.

    -Kathy
     

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