Using whole grains to avoid commercial feed?

Some essential vitamins and minerals might be missing from the homemade feed.

 

I feed ours corn, oats and sunflower seeds all the time, in addition to layer pellets, table scraps and all the bugs they catch. They seem to be doing well. I don't think I'd eliminate pellets altogether, but don't see a problem with supplements and substitutions.

 

Here is a link that you may find helpful. It is on "choice feeding" by a poultry specialist with the Manitoba Provincial agriculture agency. He says:

"You do not need to grind the whole grain when you choice-feed your hens. The birds will readily eat whole wheat, whole oats or whole barley (but they can have difficulty eating whole corn). After about three weeks of eating whole grain, the hens' gizzards will increase in muscle mass and will grind the grain as efficiently as a hammer mill. Hens can successfully consume 70% of their diet as whole grain when it is choice-fed."

To follow this approach to feeding, you'll need to supplement with high protein and account for vitamins. Calcium can come from limestone or oyster shells and protein could probably be of animal origin like meat scraps or fish meal. (Soybeans must be heat processed.) The vitamin needs must be met. Note that the Manitoba guy is talking about the custom formulation of a supplement.

Steve

 

Harvey Ussery of The Modern Homestead is a fount of info. He writes a lot of articles for Backyard Poultry magazine. Here is a link to his website and an article on mixing your own feed
http://www.themodernhomestead.us/article/Making-Poultry-Feeds-1.html
Check out his other articles as well. Very informative.

 

I am also very interested in using whole grains to feed my girls, along with a lot of greens and left over fruits and veggies from our large garden. Highly processed foods are not really good for people so they are probably not great for chickens either. I believe that we might tend to get too hung up on 'vitamins and minerals' in the way of supplements when these can actually be provided in a more natural way with whole grains and greens. One item I believe in for good nutrition is kelp. It contains almost every vitamin and mineral there is, and I have been adding it to my girls' feed from day one.

I think that a lot of the information you get relates to getting the maximum egg or meat production, in which case you might want to push a higher level of nutrition for the intended result, but most of us here are hopefully more concerned with the general health and well-being of our flocks. A more natural approach might not yield record-setting egg production but should result in healthier birds and healthier eggs.

 

Quote:Quote:Well, I would say you are both likely to be right but that's just 2 cents from a nonanimal nutritionist.

Quote:I remember Ussery responding to one letter writer who was attempting to take him to task for experimenting with his chicken's diets while she wrote about her own, personal diet preferences. (We all have ideas about good and bad food to put on our own plates. ) Ussery responded that it didn't seem to make a lot of sense to be willing to experiment with our own diets but not with our chickens.

I'm not an animal nutritionist but I'm very inclined to believe that chickens have fairly similar dietary requirements to another omnivore in our midst - people. (No doubt, there are those who are thinking right at this moment that this indicates my ignorance rather than any enlightenment. )

I gave up on taking vitamin and mineral supplements years ago and try hard to put healthful food on my own plate. Plenty of fruits and vegetables we hear again and again from our human nutrition experts. I realize that a hen's egg is 13% protein so her diet MUST reflect the expectation WE have for her egg production. I realize that the shell represents about 3 grams of calcium. Further, she can't utilize all the crude nutrients in her diet and she must use some of the good stuff for her own maintenance, not just for egg production.

I'm going to try to keep her happy, healthy and productive but I'm not going to do that entirely by becoming dependent on the livestock feed industry .

Steve
edited to say: I don't mean to suggest that I'm not an animal . . . I'm just not a nutritionist . . .

 

Today I dumped two boxes of breakfast cereal in the coop, and the girls were mildly interested at best. Then I scattered some oats and sunflower seeds, which they devoured with their usual enthusiasm.

Maybe their instincts about food are better than we give them credit for.

 

Quote:Have you ever heard of the "BARF" diet? Raw veggies, yogurt, fruit and chicken (raw), its for dogs, cats and not sure what else. I have a friend that used that on a dog that had cancer, it really helped quality of life. She has another wiemeriner (gosh, that spelling is horrible) dog and has put him on that diet, he stays thin, fit and pretty lively.
If you don't want to feed all layer pellets, why not give them the whole grains to help supplement their diet. I give the girls fruits, veggies, meat (cooked), and also grass. I let them out for a few hours a day to forage for bugs, grubs, worms and all the exercise they need after they paid for their kibble (lay eggs).
Good luck.