Valbazan vs Ivermectin/Praziquantel

Discussion in 'Managing Your Flock' started by EggyErin, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. EggyErin

    EggyErin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have some iver/prazi to deworm my horses. The praziquantel kills tapeworms. Could I use this in place of valbazan or should I just use the valbazan? If the valbazan, is it most efficient to dose by mouth, in water, or both?
     
  2. kfacres

    kfacres Chillin' With My Peeps

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    a quick google search, or reading the label, will direct you as to the answer of your question. See what specific wormers kill what specific worms.

    As to it's effectivness, injection is always the most effective (if approved), topical is about next, and oral is usally almost always towards the end... now with that in mind, putting anything in the drinking water is close to the worst decision one could make when dealing with parasites.
     
  3. dawg53

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    Quote:You can dose chickens with Zimectrin Gold. A "pea" size amount of the paste given to each chicken individually. The valbazen is a better wormer and easier to administer...orally assures proper effectiveness for both wormers, not mixing in water.
     
  4. EggyErin

    EggyErin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well, if the valbazen is better, that's what I'll use. A dropper will be easier than a pea anyway, so at dusk, down the hatch.... Thanks y'all.
     
  5. Tracydr

    Tracydr Chillin' With My Peeps

    Warning for everyone on the ivermectin. Not the ivermectin gold, although that would be the same warnig. I did my flock last weekend with plain zimectrin paste, a BB size dose, smaller for the Banties. All were fine except for two of my three Egyptians. I don't know if they are missing an enzyme to metabolize ivermectin or what but they nearly died! I found them seizing and unconscious, two hours after worming. One was better in the morning but still wobbly on her legs and with diarrhea. The other was comatose for nearly two days, then was seizing, then finally woke up but was wobbly and unable to stand or eat/drink. I gave her fluids, first subcutaneous and then by dropper as she got a swallow reflex back. Finally by the fourth day, she was very wobbly but able to walk and peck the ground. I put her outside with the flock to perk her up, even though she was still very unsteady and with violent diarrhea. She is doing much better today, a full week later. I honestly can't believe she's alive. That first day, her breathing was so shallow, if she didn't have occasional seizures, you could hardly tell she was alive.
    Anyway, I don't think I'll ever use ivermectin again and would strongly caution using it on Egyptian Fayoumis or maybe Campines, since they are supposedly related.
     
  6. dawg53

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    Quote:That's interesting. I've used Zimectrin Gold on my standards without issues as have other BYC members. I cant speak for smaller birds such as Banty's etc...I've never owned any. I've never used just plain ivermectin paste neither. Thanks for the info.
     

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