Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Glenda L Heywood, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 11, 2009
    Vent Gleet and more
    Natalie Ross

    First medication does not help Vent Gleet. Antibiotics
    irratate it
    Second, fixing the underlying problem:
    Now, anytime you have any gut problems, the health of
    the beneficial bacteria that should naturally occur in
    the gut should be considered.
    It's usually when the populations of those good
    bacterial decrease that we see an INcreased in bad
    bacteria, thus gut illness. The good
    bacteria literally crowd out bad bacteria, and some
    even secrete substances
    that ward off over abundances of bad bacteria.

    So during illness, and really any time there is
    stress, you'll want to increase the number of good
    bacteria in your bird's gut. You can do
    this quite easily through the use of probiotics
    available over the counter, and some even at the
    grocery store. In this case, with a
    probability of E. coli, you'll want to find a
    "probiotic" that contains live cultures of
    Lactobacilus (most commonly lactobacilus
    acidophilus) as well as B. bifidum. Bifidum is one of
    those bacteria that secretes stuff to ward off bad
    bacteria, in this case it specifically wards off E.

    You're probably thinking "right, where am I going to
    get this, and how much will it cost?". Luckily, those
    two live bacteria are usually found in Walmart yogurt.
    Just make sure it's NOT artificially sweetened.
    (Birds don't do aspartame well.) You'll want to
    encourage your bird to somehow take 1 teaspoon per day
    any time during medication.

    Third, nutrition during illness:
    You can mix it up with boiled/mashed egg yolk for a
    combination of good high protein for healing, super
    nutrition from the egg, and the good bacteria from the
    yogurt. Plus, this treat is soft and easily dissolved.

    When birds are sick, their crops/gizzards slow down,
    so it's really easy for their crops to back up and get

    If you don't think your bird will eat yogurt (some
    dont, some love it),
    then you can hedge your bets and pick up a non-dairy
    human probiotic from the human health food store.
    You'll find them in the remedies for
    yeast infections. Liquids are easiest to use, though
    you can crush tablets if you absolutely have to do. Be
    sure to read the label to see
    that it says that it contains both acidophilus (aka
    lactobacilus) as well as bifidum. Yeast infection(VENT
    GLEET) remedies do because good ol' bifidum secretes
    something that acts against yeast infections (VENT
    too! This can be a blessing for a poultry owner,
    because bacterial imbalances in poultry
    also cause "thrush" or "gleet", which is essentially a
    yeast infection of the digestive tract. Your birds are
    susceptable to this whenever they're ill and/or
    medicated, and your bird might have this as well. The
    symptoms are almost exactly the same with very few
    additions. Treating for one will essentially treat for
    the other if you do it right.

    If the bird will drink, you can start off by using the
    liquid probiotic for humans in their water. Just don't
    mix it with medicated water. If you medicate the
    water, try mixing the probiotics with
    a tiny bit of water or applesauce and mixing that with
    crumbles to just an oatmeal type consistancy. Most
    birds will eat this. You can even leave out the
    crumbles and just do applesauce, or mix egg yolk in
    the applesauce. Be creative. It's important to try to
    get the bird to get nutrition.

    Fourth, vitamin E.
    Vitamin E acts specifically against overdoses of E.
    coli. I'd use the oil capsules. ONE 400 MG PEOPLE vIT
    You can put it in a small bit of food if you
    KNOW that bit of food will be eaten entirely.

    Fifth, supportive care:
    Your bird will need to stay warm, be separated from
    the others so that it won't be bullied away from
    eating, and also so that you can monitor its droppings
    for color and consistency. If it gets stressed out,

    Nathalie Ross, Houston, TX
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2009
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