Very sick faverolle pullet

I would try giving her an injection. Give it just under her skin. Give it where ever you feel comfortalbe. I go under the wing or the back between the shoulders. Keep her warm. Someone who knows more will be along to help you.

 

i pray ur little one makes it i just lost my best red polish pullet who was 5mths old a few hours ago to something similar. but she was in the coop and had no infection. i got her through from yesterday evening till late this morning and lost her. she only had a couple real tiny spots of frostbite on bottoms of her feet but she was ice cold when we found her.

she was eating or drinking either but i used a pipette to feed her. she did eat a tiny bit and drink a little last night and was perking up but over night when i went to sleep she didn't eat either with it right in front of her. she was real weak and i tried to still get some into her but she wouldn't swallow it and kept bringing it back up alittle while later she passed in my hands.

only thing i know to tell ya is her windpipe is that little hole in the middle towards the front. the throat is the little bigger whole on the right towards the back but does go farther over to the left. make sure their is no food on the top of the beak where the line is that's the sinus that goes to the windpipe so keep it clear.
best of luck to you i hope she pulls through ok.
silkie

 

You can infuse a q-tip with a dilute iodine solution to tease off the placques of gunk in there.
I suggest you contact Peter Brown at featherfanciers.com ... he is the owner of FirstState Vet Supply...he is very knowledgeable on meds and you can discuss this further with him and he can ship any meds out you need overnite if necessary.
http://www.firststatevetsupply.com

 

No, there are no charges to post questions on his board ...
People were overwhelming him at his home phone number... I believe the charge notice is to discourage that but you will find if you have a true emergency and you send him an email with the information concerning this and leave your phone number that he would call you back.
There are never any charges connected to information regarding treatment from clients who are ordering meds from him.

 

sent you a pm

ETA: Now I have more time I will post it here also ... I suspected trichomoniasis (in pigeons this is referred to as canker and this term is often commonly used for the condition in chickens too) and forwarded your info and photos to Peter >his reply is below and below that additional info I have on it. You should start treatment immediately. Please in addition to this review the info underneath... this is not a "diagnosis" per se and it really would be better to have the bird looked at by a vet if at all possible...

FROM PETER BROWN:
Hey Diana:

While it is hard to tell from the pictures this appears to be a possible case of Canker. It appears as a growth in the mouth and will eventually obstruct the air way and the esophagus as well.

Apply Iodine directly to the Canker and remove as much as possible and administer Metronidazole ( Canker Tablets ) 250 mg 2 x a day for 5 to 7 days and see where that takes you.

It may be hard for this bird to recover as it appears to be in the Nostrils as well.
___________________________________________________________ADDITIONAL INFO:

Re: TRICHOMONASIS ( sometimes called "canker")


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Mainly called canker in pigeons but referred to as trichomoniasis in fowl (it is often reported in the poultry literature as being somewhat uncommon in chickens however the backyard flock will experience this more often and it is often confused with "sour crop" and needs to be differentiated also from vitamin A deficiency and Candidiasis (thrush/yeast) and wet pox ... :
www.canadianpoultry.ca/chapter_v.htm
"White plaques in the mouth, esophagus, or crop may be caused by capillaria worms, yeast infection (candidiasis, moniliasis), or possibly trichomoniasis or vitamin A deficiency, but most frequently by fowl pox (wet form). White plaques beside the tongue in the mouth are common in hens and turkey breeders and may be caused by mycotoxin or low humidity. Vomitoxin may produce similar lesions in young chickens and turkeys."

http://www.worldpoultry.net/avian_trichomoniasis/
(excerpt)
".....Clinical signs:
.... include lowered feed consumption, spitting up of feed, high mortality, listless, ruffled feathers and emaciation.... A large crop filled with fluid, difficulty in swallowing, stretching of neck, drooling greenish to yellowish fluid. Diarrhoea (yellow and watery) and a drop in egg production can occur.....
Treatment
Dimetridazole (0.05%), ipronidizole and nitrasone and effective treatments."

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex4444?opendocument
TRICHOMONIASIS (excerpt below)
How to Know When Birds are Infected
In acute cases, there may be little indication that the bird is infected, and death may occur quite suddenly. In other cases, infected pigeon squabs may stop feeding, lose weight, look ruffled and dull, and be unable to stand or maintain their balance.

Diarrhea may also occur. Death may occur within three weeks of infection. Greenish fluid or cheesy material may accumulate in the mouth and crop, and this material may exude from the beak. A pendulous crop may develop in turkey poults and chickens.

How to Know if Birds are Infected with T. gallinae
Characteristic yellowish-white nodules in the oral cavity, esophagus and crop strongly suggest trichomoniasis. The infection is confirmed by finding the organism during microscopic examination of the greenish fluids, cheesy material or the lesion

Here is what the MERCK had to say about it:
www.merckvetmanual.com/mv...201400.htm
Trichomoniasis in domestic fowl, pigeons, doves, and hawks is characterized, in most cases, by caseous accumulations in the throat and usually by weight loss. It has been termed “canker,” “roup,” and, in hawks, “frounce.”
Etiology:
The causative organism is Trichomonas gallinae , a flagellated protozoan that lives in the sinuses, mouth, throat, esophagus, and other organs. It is more prevalent among domestic pigeons and wild doves than among domestic fowl, although severe outbreaks have been reported in chickens and turkeys. Some strains of T gallinae cause high mortality in pigeons and doves. Hawks may become diseased after eating infected birds and commonly show liver lesions, with or without throat involvement. Pigeons and doves transmit the infection to their offspring in contaminated pigeon milk. Contaminated water is probably the most important source of infection for chickens and turkeys.
Clinical Findings:
Trichomoniasis, pigeon
The disease course is rapid. The first lesions appear as small, yellowish areas on the oral mucosa. They grow rapidly and coalesce to form masses that frequently completely block the esophagus and may prevent the bird from closing its mouth. Much fluid may accumulate in the mouth. There is a watery ocular discharge and, in more advanced stages, exudate about the eyes that may result in blindness. Birds lose weight rapidly, become weak and listless, and sometimes die within 8-10 days. In chronic infections, birds appear healthy, although trichomonads can usually be demonstrated in scrapings from the mucous membranes of the throat.
Lesions: The bird may be riddled with caseous, necrotic foci. The mouth and esophagus contain a mass of necrotic material that may extend into the skull and sometimes through the surrounding tissues of the neck to involve the skin. In the esophagus and crop, the lesions may be yellow, rounded, raised areas, with a central conical caseous spur, often referred to as “yellow buttons.” The crop may be covered by a yellowish, diphtheritic membrane that may extend to the proventriculus. The gizzard and intestine are not involved. Lesions of internal organs are most frequent in the liver; they vary from a few small, yellow areas of necrosis to almost complete replacement of liver tissue by caseous necrotic debris. Adhesions and involvement of other internal organs appear to be contact extensions of the liver lesions.

Diagnosis:
Lesions of T gallinae infection are characteristic but not pathognomonic; those of pox and other infections can be similar. Diagnosis should be confirmed by microscopic examination of a smear of mucus or fluid from the throat to demonstrate the presence of trichomonads. Trichomonads can be cultured easily in various artificial media such as 0.2% Loeffler’s dried blood serum in Ringer’s solution or a 2% solution of pigeon serum in isotonic salt solution. Good growth is obtained at 98.6°F (37°C). Antibiotics may be used to reduce bacterial contamination.

Control:
Because T gallinae infection in pigeons is so readily transmitted from parent to offspring in the normal feeding process, chronically infected birds should be separated from breeding birds. In pigeons, recovery from infection with a less virulent strain of T gallinae appears to provide some protection against subsequent attack by a more virulent strain. Successful treatments include metronidazole (60 mg/kg body wt) and dimetridazole (50 mg/kg body wt, PO; or in the drinking water at 0.05% for 5-6 days). Neither of these drugs is approved for use in birds in the USA."

http://compepid.tuskegee.edu/syllabi/pathobiology/pathology/parasitology/chapter13.html
Parasites of the Esophagus and Crop in Birds-CH 13

 

Quote:At the link I gave you for Peter Brown... (the store) ... will ship out that med overnight.... You can add an email and explain who you are and that you need it immediately....

Yes...take the q-tip as I explained in my first post and dip it in iodine and gently extract the gunk out of mouth (coats twhat does not let loose and repeat the procedure every day)
It wont all come out at once but it will slowly
Are you able to get to a vet to help?

please disinfect (bleach) all your waterers :
(quote from MERCK article above)
"... Contaminated water is probably the most important source of infection for chickens and turkeys. ..."