WARNING: GFIC outlets may not protect against coop fires!

Discussion in 'Coop & Run - Design, Construction, & Maintenance' started by RonP, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. RonP

    RonP Overrun With Chickens

    First off, I am not a licensed electrician, but I do have a better than average understanding about electric wiring.

    There are many posts touting the necessities of wiring your coop via a GFCI Receptacle, which helps protect people from shock or electrocution resulting from ground faults. This is all great information that may save your life, but not necessarily your coop from a fire.

    Unless you have steel-sheathed cable or the equivalent, your electrical wiring insulation may effortlessly become compromised by a rodent chewing through it. There then is an excellent possibility it could develop an arcing condition that may not trip a GFCI receptacle.

    That arc may very well ignite the combustible materials associated within our coops!

    I did a quick site search and found little to no posts about the benefit of using a AFCI/GFCI Dual Function Outlet such as the one I have installed in my home, supplying electricity to my coop. An AFCI receptacle or breaker is designed to trip upon an arcing condition.

    I started this thread hoping to make aware the false sense of security many have believing they have done a fine job wiring their coop…

    It’s you coop, your choice, but my advice to all is that if you do not know what you are doing, you should consider hiring a licensed professional, not me, as I can only offer my opinion. :hmm

    I hope this helps someone prevent a potential disaster.
     
  2. bruceha2000

    bruceha2000 True BYC Addict Premium Member

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    Good point @RonP. I know the electricians put in arc fault breakers in the rebuilt part of our house other than the potentially wet areas where there are GFI outlets.
     
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  3. RonP

    RonP Overrun With Chickens

    I'm sure to meet new code requirements...
     
  4. NoNameHomestead

    NoNameHomestead Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Good info! I'm not a licensed electrician either and like you I have a good understanding of electrical wiring as a facility maintenance tech. I second your post!
     
  5. bruceha2000

    bruceha2000 True BYC Addict Premium Member

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    Yep. They said the most likely cause of arc faults in the past were from people who ran extension cords under carpets, the cord wore through with years of people walking on them. Arcing catches the carpet on fire, house burns down. It is pretty unlikely with wire properly run through walls, not on the floor.

    BUT the chewing rodent angle has merit, especially outside in a barn or coop.
     
  6. DwayneNLiz

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    i have also seen arcing/fires from dust/debris build up in the outlet itself
     
  7. bruceha2000

    bruceha2000 True BYC Addict Premium Member

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    True @DwayneNLiz, and SO much more likely out in the dusty barn or coop than in the house.
     
  8. Farmer Connie

    Farmer Connie Lord of the Feed Premium Member

    :goodpost::thumbsup
     
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  9. RonP

    RonP Overrun With Chickens

    I hyperlinked the breaker in my original post.
     
  10. cholland

    cholland Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Good point, those breakers are to help prevent fires. Not a sure thing.

    Side note: if you are running an electric fence charger. You do not want it on a GFCI breaker. When the fence arcs, as it does if something touches it. It will trip the breaker and then the fence is off.
     

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