So after I ordered the birds I was so excited and ordered some stuff before I even got them and one of those was watering nipples. I thought that I had read vertical nipples were the ones less likely to freeze so ordered those but now I'm hearing the opposite as well as hearing saddle nipples mentioned so now I'm a bit confused. I just now ordered some stuff on Amazon that I had in my cart and forgot about, one of those being horizontal nipples, but then right after I remembered saddle and put in another order but luckily shipping was free. I know it probably is stupid to order so many of these things and probably a waste but it's only a couple bucks and I don't know, I already did it so too late. I went overboard on the vertical nipples and got both a 25 pack and a 10 pack but the horizontal is a 5 pack I think and saddle I think is 10 so... Lots of nipples xD I can save for a later flock though or give away or something. Anyway. My point is I will now have all 3 nipples so I can do either and I also ordered a de-icer to avoid the freezing. Soooo.... Which do you think is better?? I live in Massachusetts so freezing is a concern but not as much as some parts of the country. ALSO. Which watering system is best? I know it's probably personal preference but just wondering. By system I mean like where to put the nipples but I guess that's why there's different nipples. I was originally going to put the vertical nipples on the bottom of the bucket which is why I got them but then I heard about horizontal so was planning on putting them on the side of a bucket. I hear 55 gallon drum is best for some people but our flock isn't big enough for that at only 8 birds. Well now I've been hearing and really liking the PVC pipe idea. From what I've seen, people seem to have an igloo drink cooler outside and then a pipe running down and inside. I like that because it seems to me like it would be a lot easier to fill and more automatic, not that I don't like going in with them. Now if I do that though I'm not really sure how that works... Are the saddle nipples necessary or can you put the horizontal ones in the pipe? Just trying to figure out the best and easiest way to feed and water the flock and prevent freezing. Also, my chicks just turned 3 weeks old on Monday and I reallyyyy do not like this open waterer. Gets dirty way too fast and starting to leak I think. We have this one and I think it's one of the best but I just don't like the whole idea of open waterers in general. Was fine when they were little but now constantly dirty. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006ZUNKOW/ref=psd_mlt_nbc_B006ZJHDNM_pbi Soo.. I can start chicks on a nipple waterer right? Assuming I should wait for the horizontal? Should be Friday I think. Thank you in advance for any help.