Wazine wormer WARNING! - UPDATE

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by tx_dane_mom, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. tx_dane_mom

    tx_dane_mom Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 23, 2007
    SE Texas
    This is MY experience & I just really want to pass it along b/c I know some of you mentioned you also use this wormer. I will try & make it brief, but explination is important.
    Batch 1 - Snowy Calls - laid BEFORE worming - hatched all healthy
    Batch 2 - (7) Chicken Eggs - laid on days 1&2 AFTER worming. - 2 healthy; 1 was 'rotten' (previously fertile/early death); 2 fully developed just dead on day 19; 2 deformed - 1 born with intestines outside of body, 1 born with brain exposed and top beak never formed.
    Batch 3 - (12) Chicken Eggs - Due 12/1 laid on days 6,7, & 8 AFTER Worming. *Wish them luck*
    Supposedly day 14 is when it is safe to eat the birds themselves again after worming, so I was feeding the eggs to the birds or my dogs and on Thurs-Sat collecting them for setting b/c I was told they could be hatched. Evidentally the wormer, IMO does something to the little chicken fetus' too. I just wanted to post the results & WILL update with the status of the 12/1 hatch as well. I wouldn't set eggs after using this wormer again, but I for one, won't use this wormer again at all after having to cut the heads off two little chirping babies...it was very sad.
    Kristi

    --- I will POST 12/2's update at the end ----
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2007
  2. TxChiknRanchers

    TxChiknRanchers Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Wow! Kristi that is some eyeopening stuff, I will follow this thread with interest. Will be interested in hearing more and especially hearing from other users. Was there any indication on the labeling that would make you concerned about egg development ?

    Randy
     
  3. Scrambled Egg

    Scrambled Egg Flock Mistress

    Aug 29, 2007
    Fayetteville, NC
    That is eye-opening information. SO sorry it happened to your babies, sounds like infants that are exposed to prenatal drugs/chemicals. Imagine what would have happened if someone pregnant had eaten those eggs......
     
  4. tx_dane_mom

    tx_dane_mom Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 23, 2007
    SE Texas
    Well, that's why I wanted to post it. I know someone on here (I forget who) said they personally started eating the eggs on day 2, so I KNEW I had to get the info out. It was a bit tramadic for me, but I just wanted it not to happen to others. I know after studying the whole 'RAW diet' for my dogs, that wormers in general as well as 'flea meds' are poisons, so unless you use something holistic, it is poisoning the worms/fleas to death ans thus poisoning your chickens/dogs, etc.
    I hope my hatch Sat comes out well. IF it comes out better, I can either conclude that it's b/c the wormer had more time to get out fo their system or that I was wrong all along...but I, personally, will go with the 1st one.
    Kristi
     
  5. Scrambled Egg

    Scrambled Egg Flock Mistress

    Aug 29, 2007
    Fayetteville, NC
    I'll keep my fingers crossed for your saturday batch Kristi, and again, thanks for the info. Darlene
     
  6. panner123

    panner123 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 15, 2007
    Garden Valley, ca
    After I worm a chicken, I won't do anything with the eggs for three weeks. I won't feed them to my other animals either. If you want to keep your chickens worm free, mix D E with your feed. Been doing this for some time now and only have to worm new birds.
     
  7. tx_dane_mom

    tx_dane_mom Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 23, 2007
    SE Texas
    I have been told by 'country folk' to give them a tiny bit of bleach in their water occassionally to worm them. Any opinions?
    Kristi
     
  8. helmstead

    helmstead Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 12, 2007
    Alfordsville, IN
    Bleach? No - that is not a dewormer.

    Many, many deworming medications affect reproduction. You should not incubate eggs until WELL after the meat withdrawal time period has passed (I would wait at least 30 days).

    I'm sorry you've gone through this, sounds like one of those 'live and learn' situations. Wazine is a long time safe and proven dewormer when used according to label directions.
     
  9. tx_dane_mom

    tx_dane_mom Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 23, 2007
    SE Texas
    Well, why isn't this information readily available? The only thing that I can find is that birds shouldn't be slaughtered for 14 days and that it shouldn't be given to chickens whose eggs are used for eating. Nothing is available for how long before eggs will be ok to eat or incubate. I, personally, think that is very important information.
    Kristi
     
  10. helmstead

    helmstead Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 12, 2007
    Alfordsville, IN
    That's when you pick up the phone and call the manufacturer. Do your research first. If you had asked the question and they failed to answer it correctly, you'd have a complaint. Otherwise, you've lived and learned.

    There is a lot of pertinent use information that cannot fit onto a small bottle, which is why Customer Service numbers are provided.

    Again, I understand you're upset over your obviously traumatic losses. So sorry you went through it.
     

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