Weak Peahen, Can't walk without stumbling and toppling over.

Discussion in 'Peafowl' started by Cheeptrix, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Cheeptrix

    Cheeptrix Out Of The Brooder

    This is a cross post. I posted also in emergencies, but I'm needing help fast.

    I have a 3 year old peahen that lives in the aviary with a 5 year old male. The first indication that I had that anything was wrong was on Sunday, 2 days ago. She was lying in her nest box inside the coop which she never does. She is always sitting on the perch. I went in and encouraged her to get up. She popped up and ran outside to the pen just fine, but when she tried to fly up to the perch, she couldn't make it. The perch is about 4 feet high, she flapped up about halfway and came back down. She tried a couple of times and did not have the energy to get to the perch. She did peck at the scratch feed that I had scattered on the ground. Then she went back inside and lay in the next box again.

    When I checked on her later in the afternoon, she could not stand or walk without tumbling over. She doesn't want to get up, but if I get too close, she will make the effort, but falls down. She was the same yesterday. I waited down there until I could collect a fresh stool sample from each of them and took the samples to a vet. (We don't have a qualified avian vet in the area. There is one vet in a town an hour away that treats parrots and lizards, but he admits he knows nothing about poultry. He can read a fecal, though). But both samples came back clean. I didn't really expect to see any parasites, as I do a regular worming program on the birds, and they had just been wormed two weeks ago. The hen's stool yesterday was yellowish and mucus, but today it looked pretty normal, just a little softer that usual.

    I don't think there is any foot or leg injury, as she was able to walk just fine 2 days ago, just seemed too weak to fly at that time. I don't know if she is eating or drinking, as I suspect it is too much effort for her to get outside to the feeder. I sprinkled some food and scratch on the floor of the pen this morning and set a dish of water in there for her.
    Frankly, I was surprised to find her still alive this morning, but she was actually standing on the floor when I went in. Still flopped and fell down when she tried to walk.

    If I know what medicine she needs, I can get it down her throat.

    Any ideas? I hope that someone out there can help, as we have no vet to turn to here.

    Donna
     
  2. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Can you take a fresh poop sample back to the vet and have it checked for bacteria? If she were mine I would bring her inside where it's warm, weigh her daily and start on metronidazole and Baytril.

    She also needs fluids, so you will need to tube fluids to her, which I can teach you how to do if you can get some aquarium air line and a syringe.

    -Kathy
     
  3. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    What antibiotics do you have?

    -Kathy
     
  4. zazouse

    zazouse Overrun With Chickens

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    [​IMG] when did you last worm her and what did you use?
    Is she with other types of birds like chickens and turkeys ETC..?
    Can you post photos of her front,side and top sometimes we can see things in a photo that may not be noticeable to an owner.
     
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  5. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    Could this be one of those cases of a pea flying up and hitting the ceiling or a perch and injuring their back?
    Is there anything like wood crossbars that she could have flown into?
     
  6. zazouse

    zazouse Overrun With Chickens

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    Very possible also.
     
  7. Garden Peas

    Garden Peas Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Any coughing or sneezing? Any mucus? Anything unusual in her eyes or how they look? Swelling, discharge, redness? Any swelling or unusual appearance in her sinus area? Can you describe for us what her breathing is like? Beak open or closed? Labored or normal? Faster, slower or the same as your other bird? Does she have any place where her feathers look odd or missing? Any sign of a wing injury? Any bumps or lumps on her neck or body?

    I would stop all scratch grains and any coarse food until she is better. If she can still eat, can you offer her a nice soft mash? Some crumble, wetted with water until it is soft, and some chopped up, cooked egg would be easier for her to digest right now.

    Plus everything Kathy said about bringing her into the house if you can, keeping her warm, tubing fluids and starting antibiotics all sounds super smart.

    If it's due to an injury, the antibiotics shouldn't hurt her, but if it's due to infection, delay in treatment could be fatal, so erring on the side of caution makes sense to me.

    I'm glad she's still alive so far, hang in there [​IMG]
     
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  8. Cheeptrix

    Cheeptrix Out Of The Brooder

    Thanks for the replies.
    I am on my way to town to get tubing supplies so I can start hydrating her. I need to get the dog kennel from the attic and bring her in. Her breathing is fine, no swelling of the nasal passages. I don't think it is respiratory. I have Baytril on hand so am going to start giving that as well. Kathy has been very helpful. We spent a good long while on the phone with tubing instructions. We'll give this a try for a start.
     
  9. Garden Peas

    Garden Peas Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh yeah, and if you can get a weight on her most skosh, Kathy is AWESOME at figuring out dosages [​IMG]

    See if any of the vets will give you baytril... my vet has no clue on dosages, but we have a good relationship, so when I said I needed a bottle, I was able to get it from him. (He said I was on my own for dosing [​IMG]-- okay, most vets won't do that, at least not if they don't know you really well... [​IMG] )

    An avian vet -- even one that has never looked at "poultry" -- has a pretty good chance of being able to help, so getting her to the vet is a pretty good idea. And the avian vet should be able to calculate an appropriate Baytril dosage, since it is also used in parrots, or should be able to look it up. Taking her to the vet is probably the best choice, if you can do it.

    If the vet is not an option, then tell us how much she weighs.
     
  10. Garden Peas

    Garden Peas Chillin' With My Peeps

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    We were typing at the same time [​IMG] Glad you have the Baytril. Good luck!
     

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