Weezing Roo! Please Help!**UPDATE 3**PATHOLOGY REPORT

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by snowhorse, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. snowhorse

    snowhorse Pantry Brook Farm

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    3Okay so here it goes:

    I just found my Mottled Houdan in the condition described below at about 5:15pm today.

    I want to know if there is any at home remedies I can provide. I have looked around and it looks like I should purchase some VetRx which I won't be able to get around here most likely I will have to order it. So I am wondering if that is all I should purchase and what I can do. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


    1) What type of bird , age and weight.

    Mottled Houdan, 13 to 15 weeks. 3 or 4 lbs maybe?

    2) What is the behavior, exactly.

    Weezing and Sneezing. Mouth breathing. Sounds very congested. Listened closley to see if I could hear it in the lungs but it appears to be upper respitory.

    3) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

    None

    4) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

    I cleaned the coop yesterday and it was dusty. However they were not in it and I put a fan in to blow out the dust before allowing them back in.
    They have been free rangeing the past couple days for the first time, all day. I had only been letting them out for a few hours a day prior to this weekend.

    5) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

    I have seperated him from the rest of my flock. He did not appear to be eating or drinking in the smaller cage he is now, but I know he also was not happy about being seperated either which could be contributing to that right now.

    6) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

    Poop I have not been able to get a look at yet as I have literally just seperated him an hour ago.

    7) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

    I have administered no treatment yet. Just quarantine.

    8 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

    No vets available in my area. Self treat.

    9) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

    No pictures that would help I don't think.

    10) Describe the housing/bedding in use:

    He is in a large coop with 20 other chickens ranging around the same age. I use pine shavings. And they are allowed out during the day. I only allow them outside of the outdoor run when I am here all day, otherwise they are in an outdoor run that has access to the coop all day.
     
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  2. purpletree23

    purpletree23 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Are his eyes tired looking or half closed? Is he lethargic? If the answer to these two questions is no them I think something is irritating his airway. Are the pine shavings giving off a very strong smell? Right now that is all I can think of. Keep him separate and monitor him to make sure he shows no other symptoms.

    If his eyes are half closed and he is lethargic he most likely has an upper respiratory infection. There are a lot of medications you can use but I prefer water soluble Tylan. Your feed store might carry it or you can order it at firststatevetsupply.com

    If it is upper respiratory you will have to treat all of your chickens for 7 days.
     
  3. snowhorse

    snowhorse Pantry Brook Farm

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    He's not tired looking. But he is lethargic.

    The shaving do have a smell, but its like fresh shavings, no stronger then they normally are.

    He does not appear to be eating or drinking that I can tell.

    His mouth is open when he breathes. There are no crusties on his nose and does not appear to have any discharge. His breathing seems to be labored and it sounds like someone with deep congestion, like bad bronchitis.

    The grain mill near me only has terramycin. I'll have to order any thing I need, I really have nothing local [​IMG]
     
  4. Patch's Chickens

    Patch's Chickens Out Of The Brooder

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    This also describes my girl well - I will separate her from my other 4 chickens now and honestly, I hope she is alive when I get back from feed store, which is about 45 minutes away. She looks that bad, very labored breathing.
     
  5. snowhorse

    snowhorse Pantry Brook Farm

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    I ordered VetRX and Tylan today, won't be here for a few days. Hopefully he will make it until it comes [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  6. threehorses

    threehorses Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I would go ahead and buy the Terramycin and just keep it handy - consider putting him on the terramycin until the Tylan comes if he worsens at all. Finish the terramycin and then do the three days of Tylan. As soon as you get the VetRx, start that. That will help with some of that mucus/congestion, his breathing, helping to reduce respiratory inflammation to allow him to be more comfortable.

    For now, boost his vitamins. Do you still have polyvisol? If so 3-4 drops in the beak daily. The A will help his respiratory system, the B will help with appetite, and of course E is great for health, inflammation. He'll need that throughout treatment anyway - might as well start now.
     
  7. snowhorse

    snowhorse Pantry Brook Farm

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    Well Im not able to get the Terramycin today, I didn't go to the grain mill today and they un convieniently close at 5pm when I get out of work. I didn't know that would be good for this [​IMG] Still learning what I need to have on hand!! Bummer

    Ill have to get it tomorrow on my lunch break.

    So I will do the vitamins tonight and put some vitamins in his water as well, hopefully he will eat it. Maybe do a yogurt mash see if I can get him to eat that.

    He's my favorite Roo [​IMG]
     
  8. threehorses

    threehorses Chillin' With My Peeps

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    it may still be just dust reaction, irritation, causing this since it was so sudden and there's a possible proceeding event. Still the vitamins, and support methods, help. That way even if it is dust, if there becomes a secondary bacterial issue you'll be set. I think I would try to alleviate his discomfort - maybe try the OACV in the water today for mucus/congestion, 1 tablespoon per gallon of water - the vitamins, clean his nares, feed him up - give him a dose of yogurt for sinus drainage's effects on the digestive tract - see if a day or two of that while you wait doesn't help, get the terramycin just in case (save it) and tell us which one it is - we'll get you a good dosage on it
     
  9. snowhorse

    snowhorse Pantry Brook Farm

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    Last night, I gave him 3 drops of PolyViSol and a few drops of Vitamin E w/ Selenium. And put OACV in the water. Wasn't able to give him the yogurt last night (had an emergency errand for the horses lol) He took the drops well and appeared to be breathing much better. No longer mouth breathing but also congested somewhat still when he took a deep breath.

    I checked on him this morning and he does not appear to have such labored breathing anymore. More alert and I saw him eating this morning as well. When I get out of work I'll give him some yogurt and more drops, probably keep him in the small cage for now until he's not breathing like that anymore.

    Hopefull the VetRx will come in soon and I'll give some of that to him.

    But I think you are right, could have just been an irritation. The last time I changed the coop litter, I remember hearing him sneeze a few times the next day. Nothing major and he didn't seem to have anything after that, but he may just be extra sensitive. So I will keep this in mind when changing the litter next time.

    I'll keep you posted when I check on him tonight.
     
  10. threehorses

    threehorses Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I suspect, like you, that it might just be irritation. But of course irritation lowers immune systems, which leads to illness, so I'd keep up the vitamins for the week to get him through it - boost him over any infections, support his immune defenses, and hopefully he won't get sick(er)!

    Yeah dust isn't great for them, neither is it good for humans. [​IMG] So be sure and wear dust masks when you do it - and protect your eyes if there's dust. (I'm mother-henning YOU now, not just your chicken lol).

    I'll look forward to an update.
     

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