Bright and early this morning on a very very stressful day for my house we got the phone call they had arrived. It was a really really bad day for my hubby and I (will get to that later). I ordered 33 chicks from MMH and they arrived this morning. MMH said on the package that they sent 35... but really they sent 44. Unfortunately the extras were all bantams.... and 4 were dead in the box on arrival. They had been smashed into the corners. Looks like they were really stepped on bad as I've now lost 8 bantams, leaving 4.The two look like they will likely be checked out by tomorrow morning. I really am not very hopefully for them even with my full day effort to save them. Also one of the other remaining bantam is really iffy so I would give it like a 50:50 chance. That leaves only ONE bantam thats healthy... and s/he is a true spitfire. When that one gets to cold... it stands on the backs of the bigger chicks to get closer to the light and pecks at them when they move out of the light. I ALSO lost 1 black polish, 1 crevecoeurs, 1 lakenvelders, and the golden camppines. AND they didn't ship me my silver laced wynadotte OR my sumatras. They did write that they included an extra phoenix free... male of course... just what I need... another male to sell. Anyone want a some Phoenix?? I will be selling them! I think the 'free extra chick' was actually bascily doubling my bantam order. That would have been *FANTASTIC* if they had separated them but nope. They put them ALL in a tiny box mixed together, the result being that the bantams were basically suffocated by the bigger chicks. I had been told on the phone when I called before shipping that they would be separated by size so that wouldn't happen. I called today and the woman on the phone was VERY nice. She was apologetic and told me to use the website to try to identify all the chicks that didn't make it and keep track til wed and call them back. She said if I loose more they may end up re-shipping because my losses are above what they expect. SO basically it looks like this: Ordered 33 Received 44 Dead..... so far: 12 <---- likely to hit 16 by morning. I have also had my hands full with 2 that have constant pasty butt... the white crested black polish is now sporting a lovely bald backside because he was so badly pasted up when he arrived it was the only option.... yes its probably a she but for some reason I look at that one and say HE. The other pasty butt chick.. is ALSO a polish... this time a golden. Is pasty butt worse with polish chicks ?? My hubby is pretty upset over the losses. He is worried if we reship when its too cold the same thing will happen again but if we wait to long (this being Texas) we will have the opposite problem. I will take pictures of them tomorrow. I took a few today but I used my phone and they came out looking like fluffy blurs.