Welded wire vs hardwire cloth

Discussion in 'Coop & Run - Design, Construction, & Maintenance' started by kjames603, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. kjames603

    kjames603 Chirping

    Feb 24, 2017
    Which one for a run?

    As always, thanks!!
    Cryss, Wee Farmer Sarah and Shadrach like this.
  2. HopeSprings

    HopeSprings Songster

    Feb 3, 2019
    Weaverville, NC
    You want the one with the smaller holes, like the half inch hardware cloth. Welded wire is usually a much more open material, right?
  3. Rachel Taylor

    Rachel Taylor Crowing

    Aug 17, 2017
    Welded wire is a very strong and good material. I use it for my goats fencing in my pics fencing but it is better to have something with the smaller holes. Hardware cloth can get very expensive if you have a very large one like mine. I used hardware cloth on some of mine but found different ideas to make the rest of mine safe without the large holes But hardware cloth probably is the best material that can be used. Especially towards the bottom
    Wee Farmer Sarah and noregerts like this.
  4. cholland

    cholland Songster

    Jan 17, 2017
    Depends on what you are trying keep out. 2x4 welded wire works great for the bulk of the run. Keeps chickens in and most larger preditors out. Some preditors will dig under so many people bury hardware cloth into the ground or lay a skirt about a foot our more out from the side.
    I have had great success just running an electric fence wire around the bottom outside.

    Hardware cloth on coop windows and such to keep the small rodent preditors out of the coop. Some people use hardware cloth only on the bottom couple feet of the run. But my birds are only out during the day. I haven't found that necessary.
  5. FowlWitch

    FowlWitch Songster

    Jun 11, 2019
    For my first run I used hardware cloth for the bottom of the run and covered that in dirt, then put more around the perimeter to keep raccoons out. I've found I haven't really had any issues with digging predators, so for the second coop, I put welded wire for the floor (then buried with dirt), but I'm still using hardware cloth for the perimeter. I was considering using welded wire to cover the top of the run, but the local ravens and stellar's jays keep all the hawks away, so I'm moving over to regular bird netting to save myself money. I also had an issue with snow last winter; the snow would accumulate on the hardware cloth because the holes were so small and ended up crushing the roof of my run. I'm hoping the bird netting won't have the same issue.
    Willowspirit likes this.
  6. Alaskan

    Alaskan The Frosted Flake

    I have had a stray dog grab welded wire and yank... popping the welds.

    Woven wire would be more dog proof, but most have holes large enough for chicks to run out and weasels, rats, mice, and sparrows to get in.
    Wee Farmer Sarah likes this.
  7. archeryrob

    archeryrob Songster

    Aug 3, 2018
    Western Maryland
    I use 2x4 welded wire 48" tall around the bottom. Chicken wire over that and a ceiling 8' - 9' up. Take the left over and cut it in half and use it as the apron. Clip it on with hog rings and bend the long 4" cut point 90° and pus them into the ground.
  8. TexasWineGuy

    TexasWineGuy Chirping

    Jun 15, 2019
    Magnolia, TX
    AR, got a pic of that? I can't quite picture your entire process.

  9. archeryrob

    archeryrob Songster

    Aug 3, 2018
    Western Maryland
    First pic overall run showing the wire. Chicken wire is over lapped three holes and cut every so often to tie them together. Two weeks ago and the calluses are not off my fingertips yet. They wire is unforgiving to work with. My legs looked like I ran through stickers.

    Second pic is the 2x4 wire cut in half, The long wires were bent 90 degrees and pushed into the ground with my shoes slowly. The hog ring is right in front of my foot joining the two. The apron is spaled to the sill board on the door.

    B8900152-FCA5-4338-8F47-18D38BB42AE4.jpeg 62F8504C-D093-40F1-BF55-6E22C75C7FD3.jpeg
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2019
    FowlWitch likes this.
  10. archeryrob

    archeryrob Songster

    Aug 3, 2018
    Western Maryland
    This one could be twisted better but its on there I usually spin it around again on the tags so it's pointing down.

    1E0CE923-E28A-4D5F-8693-DBC0111A31BF.jpeg The chicken wire waisted to the 2x4 wire
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2019

BackYard Chickens is proudly sponsored by: